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Followthereaper90
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13 Mar 2010, 8:58 am

so id like to know is there anyone who is also in this phase? :)
im curently looking for not going since i will rather work and get apartment, i just need good reason


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13 Mar 2010, 9:03 am

I wouldn't make it, one day in the army. You could say that you would like to go to college and get into the profession of your choice.


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13 Mar 2010, 11:39 am

Army seems annoying. Wouldn't have gone even if I had qualified.
Hmm. I still have my civilian tags somewhere, I believe. Probably at the bottom of some drawer.


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13 Mar 2010, 11:46 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
I wouldn't make it, one day in the army. You could say that you would like to go to college and get into the profession of your choice.
im just about to get my life going smoothly and i think i should try to play autism card,lets see army wont pay your apartment while u are there, army wont give u good paying .....and at peace time i have no indrest of playing war and lose money while i can earn


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13 Mar 2010, 5:09 pm

I wouldn't make a single day in the army either. If there was ever a draft I would move out of the country. It don't matter anymore I'm too old to enter the army.



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13 Mar 2010, 8:09 pm

the army certainly was an "interesting" experience, in similar manner as being pecked by birds would be interesting. it was a learning experience for sure. i learnt that i never want to make that kind of mistake again. so please investigate ALL reasonable alternatives before considering the military- the army is not for everybody, that is for sure. i only joined because i did explore all the alternatives available to me at the time and found all of them wanting, so uncle sam's army was the only remaining choice, as unappealing to me as it was and is.



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13 Mar 2010, 8:20 pm

I wasn't in the army but I was in the Air Force. It isn't a step taken lightly, so get all the information you can- NOT from recruiters though. Their job is to bring in recruits, and they will either bend the truth or all out lie sometimes to people. They will make statements that sound like promises and will make everything sound great. That is why they go to schools with those awesome action-packed recruiting films.

That said, it is a stable job with regular pay, a roof over your head, and meals. It will pay for college if you invest in the GI Bill, and you can get tuition paid if you go to classes while on active duty. If you stay in for at least one enlistment or are discharged early for medical reasons you can have medical care afterwards.

Get all the information first. I don't know if autism or any spectrum disorders will disqualify you, but you may want to ask a recruiter that before you even start looking at videos or pamphlets. Good luck!



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13 Mar 2010, 8:28 pm

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I wasn't in the army but I was in the Air Force.


you were fortunate to be able to try the air force. when i got stuck in the army, my parents looked at me like i had two heads and said "why? ANYTHING is better than the [expletive] army!" so when i told them i was too old and lacked qualifications to be considered by the air force and other services, they shook their heads at their failure son.



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13 Mar 2010, 10:02 pm

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pumibel wrote:
I wasn't in the army but I was in the Air Force.


you were fortunate to be able to try the air force. when i got stuck in the army, my parents looked at me like i had two heads and said "why? ANYTHING is better than the [expletive] army!" so when i told them i was too old and lacked qualifications to be considered by the air force and other services, they shook their heads at their failure son.


WOW the Army is not for losers or anything! They scoffed at us because we were like the geeks of the military world, lol. But then, that is how I roll. I am sorry you couldn't go AF because I think it was a good experience for me and probably the best branch for living a fairly "normal" life.



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13 Mar 2010, 10:48 pm

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WOW the Army is not for losers or anything! They scoffed at us because we were like the geeks of the military world, lol. But then, that is how I roll. I am sorry you couldn't go AF because I think it was a good experience for me and probably the best branch for living a fairly "normal" life.


am glad you think so. i certainly would not call anybody who puts up with army BS a loser, it takes a lot to endure that stuff. as for scoffing, my marine older brother called air force personnel "bus drivers" because their uniforms reminded him of the grayhound professionals. i remember graduating from basic and seeing a bunch [still called "flights"?] of air force basic grads in their "slick sleeve" uniforms and being envious of them because i knew they had a better deal going for them.
my parents were disappointed in me because nobody in our family qualified for air force, we all were either army or marines, so we all knew how much better AF was.



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15 Mar 2010, 4:00 am

I hate being told what to do. I wouldn't last ten minutes. But even in the most likely decade it would have been feasible, I knew it was out of the question for me.



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24 Mar 2010, 8:38 pm

My cousin is a major in the Air Force....he's in his mid 30s like me but is actually starting to think about what he's going to do when he retires, since he only has about five or six years until he completes his 20 years and is eligible for it. Weird to be approaching retirement before you're even 40. He has gradually lost interest in a lot of it, as he has been promoted his job has become more and more about paperwork and administrative tasks.

It has been good to him, but he has the type personality to succeed there [in other words, definitely not on the spectrum.] One thing he said when he came home on leave for the first time, "You never know how much freedom you have until you lose it." I guess it was a big adjustment for him to make.

I am the complete opposite, I would probably be kicked out almost immediately. Actually, I don't know if I could even get in since I have been prescribed antidepressants in the past and I know years ago they did not allow people to join if they had shown any signs of psych disorder [I had a sibling try to join and she was disqualified when they learned she had the same type history I did.] These days the rules might be different, but even if I wanted to join I am too old for all of the branches other than the Army [I think they extended their cutoff age to 42.]



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07 Apr 2010, 6:03 pm

Army, today? Don't do it.

Today's army (especially because it's lead from the top down) is "run by managers" and "people who know the cost of everything but the value of nothing" and "no longer wear their responsibility on their shoulders." Quotes are from a retired Colonel.



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07 Apr 2010, 7:12 pm

Merle wrote:
Army, today? Don't do it.

Today's army (especially because it's lead from the top down) is "run by managers" and "people who know the cost of everything but the value of nothing" and "no longer wear their responsibility on their shoulders." Quotes are from a retired Colonel.


according to my vietnam vet older bro, it was like that back during 'nam also. a chaplain told my brother, "You can't expect justice from an organization whose sole purpose is to commit mass murder."



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07 Apr 2010, 8:23 pm

pumibel wrote:
I wasn't in the army but I was in the Air Force. It isn't a step taken lightly, so get all the information you can- NOT from recruiters though. Their job is to bring in recruits, and they will either bend the truth or all out lie sometimes to people. They will make statements that sound like promises and will make everything sound great. That is why they go to schools with those awesome action-packed recruiting films.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdY7gKndVqE[/youtube]



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10 Apr 2010, 7:58 am

I would not bother with it. I wasted 9 Years of my life on it. US army reserve.

The reserves are treated like garbage. Pay is terrible even after years in it. Retirement is a joke. $$$ for college is a lie.
The regular army is full of entrenched morons who will "office politic" you right out of Army because you are smarter than them.
You also need to stay in 20 years or you get NOTHING when you get kicked out. Finding a “position” to be entrenched in, is the only career goal. Even the worst company vests you after only a few years.

A couple of my friends also were in, air force etc. All kicked out after a few years, all got nothing. ;
Only real winners are those that get a permant disability, that is a check for life.

I think back to when I quit about all the excellent test scores, medals, and all the schools I went too. I all ment nothing.

The military also will hold back your personal growth.
As an NCO, I boiled my job down to babysitter.

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