Have any of you ever worked here?

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You have Head, Senior and then other workers trying to become the head. Or even step over Head.

What gets me is as long as it is not midnight the Head, Senior and "desperate for promotion workers" decide to hold workshops, seminars, long meetings way after your work hours.

Lots of meetings.

Meetings about meetings.

Then meetings about meetings about more meetings. After one and a half hour of the same talk but a different person I have to ask for an excuse and leave before my brain dies.

Anyhow, when we are then off to the practical side of the meetings. Half of what is taught in the meetings etc. is not done.

When the determined workers like me do strive to achieve the practical side we are then viewed as a "threat".

What is really happening here?

Read Peter Drucker.

He said the real meetings occur after the meeting, in the hallways and bathrooms and around the water cooler. This is where the people who actually do the work decide how it's really going to be. Whoever has the best socio-political skills wins.

Thank you so much for recommending this writer.

"Meetings are a symptom of bad organization. The fewer meetings the better." Peter F. Drucker

The first sentence alone made me realize I am in a "dead horse work place".

I will continue to read his work to help me cope with the things I cannot change at work in combination with the Serenity Prayer.

Thanks.

Everything you said rings true, with a vengenance!

"Meetings about meetings". How many times have I used that phrase? Meetings in and of themselves are bad enough, when it reaches this second order of magnitude, I start looking for another job.

In one of my job interviews, I was asked to make one statement concerning my approach to work. My response: "I am someone who would rather DO something than attend meetings."
I didn't get that job - probably a good sign.

"Meetings are a symptom of bad organization. The fewer meetings the better." Peter F. Drucker
My last company was meeting hell, and it seemed very chaotic all the same. I suppose the two are correlated.

My observation is that the more insecure a manager, the more meetings he will call.

i've never really had a job where there was meetings, im sure there no fun. there only fun if you work for like a big company and they take you on vacations for meetings

In my industry we generally hold an informal meeting 15 minutes before the chairman and secretary arrive, with the people who we know and trust, and decide the outcome of the 'real' meeting before it begins. This is similar to the water cooler concept but the decisions are made in advance rather than in retrospect, so the meeting is a foregone conclusion and is over very, very quickly, which means less boredom and more time to actually do useful things.