Employers who lie about promotions and other things

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20 Jul 2018, 11:04 am

Hi:
I wondering if anyone in here has ever worked somewhere that had people in charge who constantly kept promising promotions and raises but then went back on their word.

For example- Person A is an employee who works for a company and is computer programmer and is offered a promotion to a software engineer, undergoes training only to be told by the manager later - "There aren't any opening in that area as I just hired someone else. I was just hoping you would learn some new software."

Example- Person B is promised a raised because they work hard but it never comes. However, person B is expected to work long hours. The boss tells them "We just had major budget cuts, I'm, sorry."

Has anyone had employer dangle carrots just to get you to do something that they want?



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20 Jul 2018, 11:38 am

I think you need to look at the big picture to decide whether or not your situation is acceptable or not.
There are going to be things you don't like wherever you end up working.



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21 Jul 2018, 10:45 am

BTDT wrote:
I think you need to look at the big picture to decide whether or not your situation is acceptable or not.
There are going to be things you don't like wherever you end up working.


Oh absolutely and I agree with you there. However, I am talking about employers who play games with certain employees just to get them to do things that they want them to do.

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Back when I was 20, I worked for a food company at an airport where they jerked people around with disabilities who they hired to clean or placed there once they say that they had trouble. Our supervisors kept convincing us of promoting us and giving us raises. Then they would laugh about it behind our backs
1. They told two people who cleaned that they were going to promote them to cashier when struggled to count
2. They promised me they were going to promote me to a managerial position and give me raises that never came.

A. I struggled with the cashier position and they took that title away and assigned me to clean as well next to prepping food. The woman promising to promote me goes "I want you to first prove to me that you can count money."
B. Then another time she had me keep record of the work performance book of the other employees before pulling me to the side next day informing me there were no positions in managerial at that time. Meanwhile,one of the other managers looked at me a sneaky little smile on her face.



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21 Jul 2018, 10:58 am

Summer_Twilight wrote:
Has anyone had employer dangle carrots just to get you to do something that they want?
Every single one of them. The ones who put their promises in writing are the ones to trust. The one who merely tell you are not.


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21 Jul 2018, 12:45 pm

You definitely got to watch your back at work. There is always somebody who wants to screw you over or trick you into quitting. Somebody at my mom's work told somebody else that their position might get cut. This person said that to scare the other person into looking for work elsewhere because she didn't like that person. My mom and I thought that was a crappy thing to do to somebody.



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21 Jul 2018, 1:16 pm

Then there are the pt jobs which cut hours every so often.....and guess who gets cut first? The ASD person. Very sh***y reality.



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21 Jul 2018, 1:25 pm

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Then there are the pt jobs which cut hours every so often.....and guess who gets cut first? The  ASD  non-sociable person...
There, fixed it for you.

Unfortunately, it's the sociable people who are on a "Hired First - Fired Last" basis with most employers. Everybody* likes sociable people, and nobody* likes non-sociable people.

Unfortunately, people with ASDs are too often perceived as non-sociable.


(* - ... except those of us who are only trying to get some work done.)


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21 Jul 2018, 1:44 pm

People have thought that I was antisocial because I don't talk much. If people are talking about stuff I can't relate to such as vacations, boyfriends, their kids, or their grandparents, then I won't say much. If there is a person in the group who monopolizes the conversation, then there isn't really any room for me to contribute anything to the conversation. I try to show interest in what people have to say, but sometimes it's not enough. People think I'm weird and they probably think my voice is annoying because they stop asking me to talk more once they hear enough of my voice.



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21 Jul 2018, 1:53 pm

ladyelaine wrote:
People have thought that I was antisocial because I don't talk much. If people are talking about stuff I can't relate to such as vacations, boyfriends, their kids, or their grandparents, then I won't say much. If there is a person in the group who monopolizes the conversation, then there isn't really any room for me to contribute anything to the conversation. I try to show interest in what people have to say, but sometimes it's not enough. People think I'm weird and they probably think my voice is annoying because they stop asking me to talk more once they hear enough of my voice.
It may be safe to wager that you have been dismissed, laid off, or at least reprimanded for your "antisocial" behavior. It may be even safer to wager that while this was going on, your co-workers were having a fine time socializing with each other and not getting any work done!

I wasn't hired to run a social club, and I've made sure than my supervisors and those whom I supervise know this. I was hired to work -- to produce goods and services to the employer in exchange for money. If my employer wants me to be more 'sociable', then my employer should give me accredited training in how to be 'sociable'.

And that ain't gonna happen.


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21 Jul 2018, 2:09 pm

They all do that.

My favorite is if we work a little over, we can leave early Friday...



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21 Jul 2018, 2:37 pm

At the warehouse where I used to work, my former boss had kept re-hiring and laying off a former coworker and friend by convincing her that they kept losing the contracts and they ran out of products. They also told her that they the company was going to close down due to poor economic conditions. My friends kept pretty close tabs on them and it turns out they lied to her because:
1. My friend and her mom went in to say goodbye and good luck and they had just ordered new business cards
2. They updated their website
3. The owner bought new cars, gone on all kinds of vacations
4. There were products constantly recorded on their website


They had also let go of another worker by telling him they lost products but they really fired him for being lazy and were too cowardly to tell him. :roll:

When my friend's mother went to talk to them, they told her that they got a "Last minute contract" and were able to do the work themselves" and did not plan to hire anyone outside of their friends and family.


As I said I worked for a real estate firm after the warehouse job over and year and a quarter before being told that real estate laws had changed and that I had to be licensed to make cold calls. Prior to getting laid off, they also made it sound like they were going to pay for my real estate schooling when said they would "Pay me to Get Licensed." They made me pay for real estate school and offered to reimbursement and pay for the license experience.

One of the brokers said he was going to hire me back as his administrative assistant which he led me around on too. He basically kept pushing the start date back and said that they could not afford to pay me because of inflation and because he was going on vacation. He also said something about non-licensed people could give cold calls again after six months after letting me go. Which I thought was strange because neither offered me job back.



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21 Jul 2018, 3:02 pm

Fnord wrote:
ladyelaine wrote:
People have thought that I was antisocial because I don't talk much. If people are talking about stuff I can't relate to such as vacations, boyfriends, their kids, or their grandparents, then I won't say much. If there is a person in the group who monopolizes the conversation, then there isn't really any room for me to contribute anything to the conversation. I try to show interest in what people have to say, but sometimes it's not enough. People think I'm weird and they probably think my voice is annoying because they stop asking me to talk more once they hear enough of my voice.
It may be safe to wager that you have been dismissed, laid off, or at least reprimanded for your "antisocial" behavior. It may be even safer to wager that while this was going on, your co-workers were having a fine time socializing with each other and not getting any work done!

I wasn't hired to run a social club, and I've made sure than my supervisors and those whom I supervise know this. I was hired to work -- to produce goods and services to the employer in exchange for money. If my employer wants me to be more 'sociable', then my employer should give me accredited training in how to be 'sociable'.

And that ain't gonna happen.


In evaluations, it is always pointed that I should communicate more with co-workers and supervisor. They also say that I should initiate more interaction with the students. A couple of years ago my principal told me that I should be more like another coworker because that person jumped right in and is super chatty with everybody except me. I think my principal ended up regretting this because that coworker turned out to be really lazy and she ran around thinking she was better than everyone. She didn't like our new supervisor because she wanted to be the new supervisor and she missed our old supervisor. The lazy coworker quit last year because of that.

I think my current supervisor and co-workers have been far more productive than my old supervisor and coworkers. I think my current supervisor gets along much better with the principal than my old supervisor did. I will never really got in at work, but my current team is better than my old team.

My dad was always one of the first to get laid off from his jobs. He tried to get to know people at his different jobs and he was often far more skilled at his job than his coworkers were. They may have been jealous of his skill sets even though they had no reason to because it is usually the screw ups that get to keep their jobs when lay offs happen.