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22 Feb 2019, 9:31 am

So i finally decided to try working as a lawyer (again). My employer seems like an easy going, mellow person and he seemed understanding of my position. (I learned pretty much nothing of use during my internship)
Do you think being a lawyer is hard for an aspie? I have a hard time concentrating and writing legal letters also sometimes the cases are too complicated for me to apply the laws. Basically i feel too dumb for it. Do you think being an aspie would hinder me?



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22 Feb 2019, 11:14 am

I don’t think anything would hinder you as a lawyer. If you went to law school you would still be able to get the job in the middle of getting your masters no matter what. My one friend he dreams of being a lawyer when he’s done with law school. So anything you learned during the internship you would put to use in developing your job skill over time as a lawyer. If your employer is easy going just do your job and make them proud and they’ll keep you. You’ll do just fine at writing letters I’m sure.



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22 Feb 2019, 12:05 pm

Writing is a skill that takes practice. Most people get better at it if they practice often.



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23 Feb 2019, 3:13 pm

The autism spectrum is so broad that it would be hard to answer that question. I think what you most need to consider is if you are interested in the law and in arguing a case.

From what I see from my work around lawyers and barristers, the most successful ones are the most stubborn who keep pushing points beyond what the other side thinks is possible or even often reasonable (or logical, sometimes). And they often succeed - it's crazy! But that's why they get the big bucks, I guess.

You just need to have a strong reason for why you're doing this. Why did you get into it in the first place?


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24 Feb 2019, 9:20 am

I'll be honest, i just chose law school because my points were high enough for it. (we go through an exam to enter University where i live) I also wanted the social status and money i suppose.. :? I had no idea i had aspergers back than, i was too good at faking it..



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24 Feb 2019, 9:00 pm

Sure you know this but:


Not all lawyers are trial lawyers


Got exempted from :ninja: jury duty :twisted: for autism

Seriously must be harder as a lawyer than juror



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24 Feb 2019, 9:55 pm

AprilR wrote:
I'll be honest, i just chose law school because my points were high enough for it. (we go through an exam to enter University where i live) I also wanted the social status and money i suppose.. :? I had no idea i had aspergers back than, i was too good at faking it..


If your marks were high enough for law, they'd be high enough for a lot of other things. Have you ever considered doing something else like medicine, accounting or engineering?


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25 Feb 2019, 12:58 am

^ our education system is such that in high school we choose either stem or literature-math class. I changed from stem to lit-math since i didn't have any friends at stem class. So for engineering and medicine i don't have the necessary high school education. I could go for accounting and i was seriously considering it for a while but it will require me to study a lot of subjects i didn't learn at uni and has a 3 year internship period. I really don't know what to do i guess i'll just try this for a while..



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25 Feb 2019, 1:09 am

Getting good as a lawyer takes experience.



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25 Feb 2019, 2:55 pm

Effort justification


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25 Feb 2019, 4:31 pm

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^ our education system is such that in high school we choose either stem or literature-math class. I changed from stem to lit-math since i didn't have any friends at stem class. So for engineering and medicine i don't have the necessary high school education. I could go for accounting and i was seriously considering it for a while but it will require me to study a lot of subjects i didn't learn at uni and has a 3 year internship period. I really don't know what to do i guess i'll just try this for a while..


Right, I should have considered that. Who knows, maybe you'll become more fond of it with time. Getting good at something makes it more enjoyable.


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27 Feb 2019, 12:52 am

I started work and already i'm being treated like a ret*d for not being able to remember 87689 things they tell me in five minutes. I'm taking notes too. The guy at the courthouse also made fun of me for not knowing the way things are done there which i had no way of knowing since it's not taught in school. These People are so pitiful it's laughable.



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27 Feb 2019, 8:56 am

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28 Feb 2019, 7:18 am

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I started work and already i'm being treated like a ret*d for not being able to remember 87689 things they tell me in five minutes. I'm taking notes too. The guy at the courthouse also made fun of me for not knowing the way things are done there which i had no way of knowing since it's not taught in school. These People are so pitiful it's laughable.

Stuff's like that. I'm in architecture and I get shot down everyday for not knowing enough, or for being out of touch with the desires of the higher-ups. Point is you have to keep moving. Learn. Take the hits, the pity, sometimes ridicule too. Doing a career with ASD is like using a really rusty old bike to do a cross-country road trip. You mend the bike as you keep going, and you sharpen yourself mentally by pedalling, on and on, because at least you're getting somewhere.

Good luck.



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28 Feb 2019, 10:12 am

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I started work and already i'm being treated like a ret*d for not being able to remember 87689 things they tell me in five minutes. I'm taking notes too. The guy at the courthouse also made fun of me for not knowing the way things are done there which i had no way of knowing since it's not taught in school. These People are so pitiful it's laughable.

Stuff's like that. I'm in architecture and I get shot down everyday for not knowing enough, or for being out of touch with the desires of the higher-ups. Point is you have to keep moving. Learn. Take the hits, the pity, sometimes ridicule too. Doing a career with ASD is like using a really rusty old bike to do a cross-country road trip. You mend the bike as you keep going, and you sharpen yourself mentally by pedalling, on and on, because at least you're getting somewhere.

Good luck.


Thanks! I keep thinking that if i were in a stem job things would be so different and i get really depressed. One of the lawyers there is super understanding of My mistakes but the other one almost takes it as a personel offense when i make a mistake. He literally talked like 15 minutes because of a simple spelling mistake. At least he doesn't yell and stuff but i sometimes i think i would almost prefer if he did.



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28 Feb 2019, 10:20 am

April,
I'm proud of you regardless of how uncomfortable you feel in these first few days. You don't realise how many other people in your role feel exactly the same way, but keep their thoughts to themselves. It's normal to feel extremely self-conscious and to question yourself repeatedly when beginning or learning a new job. Heaven help me, back when I began my career I always felt like spotlights were shining on my errors, 24/7. I remained mindful of my limitations but kept going, and today I'm so thankful that I persevered.

NT people are just as frustrated with new jobs as you are, but at least you have the introspective skill to articulate how you feel instead of bottling it up or faking how you feel. Keep writing. You should journal or chronicle your feelings so that one day you can reflect on all the growth you'll inevitably make. Your journey would also make a fascinating book for other ND's who wish to pursue legal work. You could even animate your journal like a cartoon. I recommend watching Ally McBeal. When all else fails, Ally saves the day ... especially with her autistic sidekick John Cage.

I'm sure you are bringing much heart and humanity to the profession.

Don't let the turkeys get you down.

Hugs :heart:


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