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SoloSailor
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11 May 2019, 11:46 pm

Just started a new gig a few days ago and this is posted on the door to my work area:

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12 May 2019, 6:47 am

Never saw a list like that.

The notes I saw at my work places were usually jokes ( I was usually the one who put them everywhere ).

i.e "You don't have to be mad to work here , but it helps"

This list should be changed to 10 things that the average person requires zero talent for.


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12 May 2019, 9:19 am

Energy, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, anemia

being on time, obsessive compulsive disorder

Body language, autism

Passion, depression

Attitude, what is a good attitude is subjective. Some lil dipshits told me I have a bad attitude. Just because I have a different perspective, and I imagine the future . And link together unconnected things. They don't understand. Or agree. There are more of them and one of me. Doesn't mean my attitude is bad or wrong



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12 May 2019, 11:08 am

As you have likely guessed number 4 was what caught my eye.

I've only been there one week, so I haven't yet discovered all of the nuances of the company culture, but humor is something that seems to be missing- at least at the upper management level.
Motivational meetings complete with pie charts and absurd 'social bonding activities' are the order of the day.



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12 May 2019, 2:40 pm

Well this note seems a bit harsh and sudden for having it posted in a work area without an explanation under it. Probably off topic though. :oops:


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12 May 2019, 3:18 pm

This type of motivational poster is a pretty common sight at any company large enough to have a dedicated HR dept.
This one just struck me as odd (and possibly discriminatory) as it's the first time that I've seen body language specifically mentioned.



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13 May 2019, 4:46 am

I don't get it.
Can anyone explain to me what that list means?
Are they saying they want talented people, and therefore they don't care if you turn up late etc. :?:
Or are they saying that even if you have no talents, you can still achieve all things on the list :?:
As per usual, I'm totally confused :?



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13 May 2019, 6:39 am

MrsPeel wrote:
I don't get it.
Can anyone explain to me what that list means?
Are they saying they want talented people, and therefore they don't care if you turn up late etc. :?:
Or are they saying that even if you have no talents, you can still achieve all things on the list :?:
As per usual, I'm totally confused :?
I'm pretty sure it's the ladder instead of the former. They believe everyone is capable of doing everything on the list & needs to. They would prefer talent on top of that but those are the essential requirements.


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13 May 2019, 7:02 am

That's a pretty arrogant list. While technically not requiring talent, there are many reasons why the majority of those can be hard for different groups of people.


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13 May 2019, 9:25 am

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13 May 2019, 12:00 pm

Fnord wrote:
Link to image seems to be broken.
I still see the list


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13 May 2019, 1:05 pm

nick007 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Link to image seems to be broken.
I still see the list
Must be the corporate firewall. Thanks!


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13 May 2019, 1:13 pm

Fnord wrote:
nick007 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Link to image seems to be broken.
I still see the list
Must be the corporate firewall. Thanks!


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10 THINGS THAT REQUIRE ZERO TALENT

1 BEING ON TIME
2 WORK ETHIC
3 EFFORT
4 BODY LANGUAGE
5 ENERGY
6 ATTITUDE
7 PASSION
8 BEING COACHABLE
9 DOING EXTRA
10 BEING PREPARED


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13 May 2019, 1:20 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
10 THINGS THAT REQUIRE ZERO TALENT

1 BEING ON TIME
2 WORK ETHIC
3 EFFORT
4 BODY LANGUAGE
5 ENERGY
6 ATTITUDE
7 PASSION
8 BEING COACHABLE
9 DOING EXTRA
10 BEING PREPARED
Tom Gimbel, the founder and CEO of LaSale Network, seems to think otherwise.
Tom Gimbel wrote:
I'm sure you've seen the post on LinkedIn or maybe even Facebook or Instagram. The title is, "10 Things that Require Zero Talent," and your reaction is, "Exactly!" But they do require talent. It may not be math or legal expertise or sales or digital marketing, but anything learned is a skill, and if people think they are easy to learn, what would be the reason people don’t have them? Apathy is partially the reason, but what is easy for one person is hard for another. Innate things that take zero talent are few and far between. Let me explain the ten that have been so publicized... However, there is one important skill missing from this list: empathy. I wish everyone had more empathy. It's easy to say that a person doesn’t have something like work ethic -- and that they should, because "it takes no talent" -- but taking the time to explain to someone what work ethic really is, and how to improve theirs, goes a much longer way.


Source: This Time Magazine article.


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13 May 2019, 1:28 pm

^ Some very valid points.

I liked the take-away

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However, there is one important skill missing from this list: empathy. I wish everyone had more empathy. It’s easy to say that a person doesn’t have something like work ethic — and that they should, because “it takes no talent” — but taking the time to explain to someone what work ethic really is, and how to improve theirs, goes a much longer way.


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