Anyone think their child had AS and now think it's bipolar?

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Lucymac
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21 Jan 2009, 10:49 pm

and/or childhood depression? My DD is 11 and in the process of getting evaluated privately and within the public school. Lately there has been suicide ideation and a depressed mood more than anything. Plus a lot of talk about wanting to "fit In' and be "popular" (Oh God, I hate middle school!) It brings back horrid memories of my own experience. Anyway, hormones are kicking in too I know. Just wondering if anyone else started the journey with AS in mind and ended up with a diagnosis of Bi polar or Mood disorder or a comorbid diagnosis. The psychatrist that we will meet in the future has heard about her from his partner and is thinking more bipolar than anything. My next questions/research will be about medications if this is the case but we are far from that. First the psychologist is going to do a four hour eval and then the school is going to do their own cognitive/emotional/social eval within the next two months and hopefully we will be able to piece the pieces of the puzzzle together. Lucy :?:



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21 Jan 2009, 11:28 pm

I might have both asperger's and some bipolar spectrum disorder, along with other stuff.



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21 Jan 2009, 11:33 pm

Many Teacher, Social worker, psychologist thinks there is something else there with my daughter more than just AS. Even the ST. The Teachers say or have mentioned Bipolar Disorder. the Psychologist was going to apply for funding under HFA and some schitzo disorder. I wish they would all shut the f**k up and just accept she has AS.



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22 Jan 2009, 8:16 am

when son was in middle school, the docs & just about everyone else threw out multiple diagnoses to try and describe all of the symptoms son was having- bipolar being one of them..........the bottom line for our son was this- he was depressed because he was being bullied and finally realized that he didn't fit in- but couldn't figure out how *to* fit in.....his anxiety was through the roof because of the larger environment. i'd step back and look at any and all environmental factors that may be contributing to your daughter's affect.......AS and depression can and do occur comorbidly



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22 Jan 2009, 9:16 am

I "developed" bipolar/mood-disorder in my late teens/early twenties, fuelled by coffee, sugar, alcohol, and increasingly large amounts of wheat and dairy.

I too, ( unlike my studious sister ), wanted to "fit in"/"be popular", but when I told my parents, sometime in my second year at grammar school, about how I was being teased/bullied, etc, and asked if I could stop going to school, my ( almost certainly ) AS father said "No, ( to homeschooling ), and you have to realise that you can either flock with the herd/sheep or climb with the goats, but not both", ( he obviously thought more highly of the goats ), which was no use at all; because I wanted to "flock" but didn't know how to.

Well, bipolar "worked", for several years, from 18 - 25 particularly. Narcissism "insulated" me sufficiently for me to surf the social wave. I was oblivious/in a beautiful bubble. People became mere mirrors to whom I played roles. Whenever depression reared its head it was swiftly seen to with more alcohol or dope smoking.

I forgot about my earlier childhood self, so pleased was I with my super new manic personality and the social success that went with it. But then, in my mid to late twenties, exhaustion/burn out set in, and I had a breakdown, with increasingly severe hypo-mania/mania and suicidal depression, until I crashed into permanent depression.

Then I found out about food intolerance, and, excluding gluten and dairy and alcohol, suddenly rediscovered my AS self, which had become such a stranger to me that I thought it was an odd kind of depression, until I found out about Aspergers. :D

Alice Miller says that mania is the self's defence from depression, which is itself, however paradoxical it may sound, a protective mechanism against real feeling; it is a deadening of affect.

The whole "structure" of bipolar is a "shell", ( narcissistic ), created by the hyper-sensitive child faced with daily hypocrisy, overload, abuse/cruelty/criticism, and other pressures in our society too much for the very sensitive.
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22 Jan 2009, 9:46 am

The behavior described in the OP sounds like the average, normal 11-year-old girl behavior. Not that having an 11-year-old girl is simple, easy, and should e taken lightly. But you don't have to slap a label on her to help her out.



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22 Jan 2009, 9:49 am

My girl is 11 and a Teacher first mentioned it seems like she is bipolar when she was in Grade 2.