Aspies: Would you teach your children about Santa Claus?

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Would you teach your child about Santa Claus?
Poll ended at 25 Dec 2013, 5:58 pm
Yes 43%  43%  [ 17 ]
No 25%  25%  [ 10 ]
I'm not Christian and/or don't celebrate Christmas 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
I'm never ever ever having kids 20%  20%  [ 8 ]
Total votes : 40

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06 Nov 2013, 4:40 pm

What game show were you on?


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06 Nov 2013, 4:51 pm

League_Girl wrote:
What game show were you on?


Its Academic!

I was on last year and the year before that.

I'm captain this year :) , but so many schools sign up that each year a few random schools are taken out of rotation for one year. Turns out, this is our year :cry:



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06 Nov 2013, 8:46 pm

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St Nick was a Moor. (So if I do put up Santa Pictures :@: Christmas, I'm putting up Black Santa)

I just don't want to teach my kids that because, as a future minister, I want my children to grow up in a religious setting. I'm not gonna take the fun out of christmas, I just want to take it back a few decades. Stringing cranberries on a tree, hanging stockings, etc.

I dont like the commercialization of what, for nearly 2 millenia, was a sacred holiday


He was not a moor. He lived in Turkey, which was part of the Greek empire at the time, and he was raised by Christian parents before his uncle raised him, when he then became a priest in the Christian tradition.

If you are going to object to something on the basis of historical fact, then at least get the historical facts right.


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07 Nov 2013, 12:53 am

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PS - My son is about your age, 16, but has no interest in posting on message boards. He's into designing games, Boy Scouts (he is an Eagle), Acting (all the school plays), and Magic (as in the game)


...I get the feeling that you're calling me lazy :?

I'm really not much of a game person, or a scout. But I am an actor, I'll be doing my 8th play soon, in only two weeks ( 8O ) AND I've been on a game show


lol, no. I was just struck by the age similarity, and how you look similar to a kid in his circle (but obviously aren't that kid). And, well, how interesting it is to see how you both form and hold onto ideas, STRONGLY. I personally believe that you both will have to learn to see some more gray and do a little more bending, but that sense of certainty you have about certain things ... he does, too. And it is a joy to watch the thought proces, even when I'm challenging it. That's all.


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07 Nov 2013, 12:54 am

Kjas wrote:
Asperger96 wrote:

St Nick was a Moor. (So if I do put up Santa Pictures :@: Christmas, I'm putting up Black Santa)

I just don't want to teach my kids that because, as a future minister, I want my children to grow up in a religious setting. I'm not gonna take the fun out of christmas, I just want to take it back a few decades. Stringing cranberries on a tree, hanging stockings, etc.

I dont like the commercialization of what, for nearly 2 millenia, was a sacred holiday


He was not a moor. He lived in Turkey, which was part of the Greek empire at the time, and he was raised by Christian parents before his uncle raised him, when he then became a priest in the Christian tradition.

If you are going to object to something on the basis of historical fact, then at least get the historical facts right.


It didn't sound right to me, but I just wasn't certain.


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07 Nov 2013, 5:55 am

Kjas wrote:
Asperger96 wrote:

St Nick was a Moor. (So if I do put up Santa Pictures :@: Christmas, I'm putting up Black Santa)

I just don't want to teach my kids that because, as a future minister, I want my children to grow up in a religious setting. I'm not gonna take the fun out of christmas, I just want to take it back a few decades. Stringing cranberries on a tree, hanging stockings, etc.

I dont like the commercialization of what, for nearly 2 millenia, was a sacred holiday


He was not a moor. He lived in Turkey, which was part of the Greek empire at the time, and he was raised by Christian parents before his uncle raised him, when he then became a priest in the Christian tradition.

If you are going to object to something on the basis of historical fact, then at least get the historical facts right.



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07 Nov 2013, 6:01 am

Isn´t St. Nick celebrated on his own day? At least around here in central europe he gets officially celebrated 6th of Decembre, and he normally is less about presents, so normally kids only get some traditional winter sweeties like christmas cookies or christmas cake or a chocolate Nikolaus for St. Nikolaus.



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07 Nov 2013, 1:42 pm

Schneekugel wrote:
Isn´t St. Nick celebrated on his own day? At least around here in central europe he gets officially celebrated 6th of Decembre, and he normally is less about presents, so normally kids only get some traditional winter sweeties like christmas cookies or christmas cake or a chocolate Nikolaus for St. Nikolaus.


Not in the US.


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07 Nov 2013, 8:29 pm

My very Christian, Aspie father taught me and my siblings about Santa. I also grew up knowing the real meaning of Christmas. To me as a kid, there was no conflict in believing both and I was not devastated to figure out the truth about Santa. I realized that Santa had my mom's handwriting and used the same wrapping paper so at about the age of 6, I asked her if she was Santa and she told me the truth. I, from day one, have had special "santa paper" that is hidden away and only used by Santa and have carefully disguised my handwriting in the exact same manner each year since my kids were born! LOL!

I have taught my children about Santa, though they also know the real meaning of Christmas. They know Santa is secondary to Jesus. My son figured out Santa wasn't real because the whole sleigh thing just didn't seem possible to him, and when he questioned me, I told him the truth. I think my daughter still believes in Santa (she is 8), though she has already dismissed the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny as implausible (too small to carry teeth and money, no such thing as a man-sized bunny). She did ask me if Santa was real and I asked her what she thought, she said "yes" but that other kids told her he wasn't. I told her I found that to be rude, the same as I would find it to be rude if she told kids who believed in the Easter Bunny that he wasn't real. She agreed, and added that she will believe in what she wants to believe in, so I think that on some level, she has probably figured it out, but is maybe not ready to "let go" yet.

I personally think that is is one of those decisions that parents have to decide for themselves. The only time I have a problem with anyone's decision on things like this is when they judge or ridicule people who decide otherwise. It's a decision based on personal values, beliefs and experiences, and I think everyone should respect the rights of others to act as their conscience directs. Just because teaching my kids about Santa was right for me and my family, it does not mean it is right for everyone. I did have a heated argument with a woman who was once a friend, however, because she ridiculed the whole Santa tradition. She was very self-righteous and judgmental, and clearly felt herself to be on a superior plane to those of us who allowed our children to believe that a strange, fat, white man gave them gifts. I've never understood why I had no problem with her not teaching her kids about Santa, but she had such a problem with me teaching mine. Why the heck did it make even a tiny bit of difference to her? Seriously...I have never understood people who bother to be bothered by other people's choices on things like this. Like I don't have better things to be thinking about that whether or not someone else is teaching their kid about Santa! LOL!


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08 Nov 2013, 6:55 am

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My very Christian, Aspie father taught me and my siblings about Santa. I also grew up knowing the real meaning of Christmas. To me as a kid, there was no conflict in believing both and I was not devastated to figure out the truth about Santa. I realized that Santa had my mom's handwriting and used the same wrapping paper so at about the age of 6, I asked her if she was Santa and she told me the truth. I, from day one, have had special "santa paper" that is hidden away and only used by Santa and have carefully disguised my handwriting in the exact same manner each year since my kids were born! LOL!

I have taught my children about Santa, though they also know the real meaning of Christmas. They know Santa is secondary to Jesus. My son figured out Santa wasn't real because the whole sleigh thing just didn't seem possible to him, and when he questioned me, I told him the truth. I think my daughter still believes in Santa (she is 8), though she has already dismissed the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny as implausible (too small to carry teeth and money, no such thing as a man-sized bunny). She did ask me if Santa was real and I asked her what she thought, she said "yes" but that other kids told her he wasn't. I told her I found that to be rude, the same as I would find it to be rude if she told kids who believed in the Easter Bunny that he wasn't real. She agreed, and added that she will believe in what she wants to believe in, so I think that on some level, she has probably figured it out, but is maybe not ready to "let go" yet.

I personally think that is is one of those decisions that parents have to decide for themselves. The only time I have a problem with anyone's decision on things like this is when they judge or ridicule people who decide otherwise. It's a decision based on personal values, beliefs and experiences, and I think everyone should respect the rights of others to act as their conscience directs. Just because teaching my kids about Santa was right for me and my family, it does not mean it is right for everyone. I did have a heated argument with a woman who was once a friend, however, because she ridiculed the whole Santa tradition. She was very self-righteous and judgmental, and clearly felt herself to be on a superior plane to those of us who allowed our children to believe that a strange, fat, white man gave them gifts. I've never understood why I had no problem with her not teaching her kids about Santa, but she had such a problem with me teaching mine. Why the heck did it make even a tiny bit of difference to her? Seriously...I have never understood people who bother to be bothered by other people's choices on things like this. Like I don't have better things to be thinking about that whether or not someone else is teaching their kid about Santa! LOL!


I agree. I personally don't think I'd be good at the whole Santa thing, but I don't ruin it for my 6 year old sister because of the enjoyment she gets out of it.



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10 Nov 2013, 2:43 am

What DW_mom said:

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I was pretty coy with my kids and it worked out really well. My Aspie son believed for a while, it would have been pretty hard to escape and why would you want a child trying to talk all their friends out of Santa Clause? But he got suspicious relatively fast and I never lied to him - I just kept playing coy. The concept to me is that Santa Clause is, as an idea, very real. But is he a man in a red suit who delivers gifts to children all over the world? No. He is you and me and everyone who engages in the spirit of Christmas.


I played coy. He recently stopped believing. It wasn't a problem. I was an early non-believer, I wasn't crushed. Unless you're planning to keep your kid not just out of school but out of life, I'd just wink and nod at the hole Santa thing. Some people get really worked up about any challenges to their child's belief in Santa. It's trouble I just don't want to have. Plus it was kinda fun!

I'm an atheist and I'll be honest with you that put St Nick and Jesus in the same category, real people who've had a mythology built up around them*. I play coy about Jesus, too. I was raised Christian and still value my Christian heritage and think there's a lot of good in it and still sometimes go to church, but I just don't believe. But I'm not going to ruin it for my son should he choose to believe. Now is not the time (he is 6) for me to go into how I became a non-believer, but one day it will be.

*I'm genuinely not trying to be offensive..this is just how I see it.



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15 Nov 2013, 7:34 am

I grew up with Santa and loved the tradition of it, so we kept it for our children. Once I knew I had an Aspie, then later when I read things on this site, I grew worried about what my son's reaction would be when he knew the truth. I found a lovely letter online explaining to kids the tradition of Santa and how it is a way to teach young children about the meaning of Christmas and giving. I composed a similar letter for my Aspie son and his twin. We talked about it this past March. My boys were probably on the older side to really know (They were 11 1/2 and at the end of 5th grade.), and although they had asked questions here and there over the years, they had never point blank asked me if he was real. They would try to reason through it, but they never came to any conclusion that Mom and Dad were Santa. We too just played coy and dumb and they rolled with it. We were smart though and always had different Santa paper, and my husband always made his handwriting different in the letters from Santa. Both boys took it very well and can't wait to be Santa for their little brother and sisters this year. They even turned the Santa letter into a tradition and said I couldn't tell the younger ones until they were the same age and I was to give them the same letter. ( I think I may have instilled traditions a little much with my kids. :D )

I would say we fall into the very religious category since we are active LDS members. We do a lot of traditions and activities all year that center of Christ and we take a lot of time the time to celebrate and remember His birth, life, death and atonement in December. We think of Santa as a extension of that and a way to teach young children about the joy that can come from giving.



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16 Nov 2013, 12:48 am

I would definitely tell my children about Santa Claus when I have them in the future.



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18 Nov 2013, 12:08 pm

For me, this is simple. My kids can't keep a secret, and between the two of them, one or the other is sure to ruin someone's day by blurting out that he's not a real person in front of someone's parents. I do try not to making parenting any harder for other parents. It's hard enough. Also, as has already been mentioned, there are other things to worry about that make this Santa issue pretty forgetable.