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Contributing to toddler temper tantrums?
I tried to Google this question but it mostly brought up Angelica in the results, not Pearl!! !
Why is that?
Are people not wanting to admit that there are things fundamentally wrong with SpongeBob's characters because it's seen as "the perfect cartoon"?
What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance!
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True but Pearl is still a bad influence IMHO
Angelica gets a pass because she is a toddler and is behaving in-line with them!
Pearl is a TEENAGER who cries every single time things don't go her way
Isn't that kinda strange and out-of-place behavior for a teen to engage in?
Maybe she has been coddled too much by Mr. Krabs or is acting like this because Krabs ISN'T HER REAL FATHER?!?
Hmm...
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I think you're greatly overestimating the influence of these two specific characters in multiple ways.
First, you're overly focused on these specific characters while ignoring other equally terrible examples like Caillou.
Second, even if you expanded your hypothesis to cover all popular bratty characters, I think you're overestimating the influence of characters that are typically portrayed as heels/bad examples. When the message is Don't Do What Donny Don't Does, it's hard to make the case Donny Don't is making kids act up.
Also, I'm not sure many people outside of the Spongebob fandom would consider Spongebob as the perfect cartoon or avoid criticism of Spongebob as a result.

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First, you're overly focused on these specific characters while ignoring other equally terrible examples like Caillou.
Second, even if you expanded your hypothesis to cover all popular bratty characters, I think you're overestimating the influence of characters that are typically portrayed as heels/bad examples. When the message is Don't Do What Donny Don't Does, it's hard to make the case Donny Don't is making kids act up.
Also, I'm not sure many people outside of the Spongebob fandom would consider Spongebob as the perfect cartoon or avoid criticism of Spongebob as a result.


Isn't Caillou a toddler though?
If so then I will go ahead and lump him in with Angelica!
Meaning that they actually have legitimate excuses for their behavior while Pearl is the outlier!! !
She is completely misrepresenting teenagers and is not accurate to that age group
I am pretty sure the vast majority of 16-year-old teens don't defiantly stomp their feet and yell at their dad "BUT I WANNA GO TO THE PARTY!! !! !!" (the episode "Whale Watching")
That is my problem with the character and I go more in-depth on my blog about this!
Hate to say it, but that is, in fact, how many teenagers and young adults act - esp if they're in Pearls situation - single dad who gives her whatever she wants.
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Hate to say it, but that is, in fact, how many teenagers and young adults act - esp if they're in Pearls situation - single dad who gives her whatever she wants.
Wait...WHAT?!?
Are you serious @uncommondenominator?
Could they have learned that behavior from Pearl though?
Or do you think Mr. Krabs is enabling her to act that way?
What are your thoughts?
Are you serious @uncommondenominator?
Could they have learned that behavior from Pearl though?
What are your thoughts?
Given that bratty teenagers existed long before spongebob did, I daresay that they didn't learn it from Pearl.
Kids typically learn this type of behavior from their parents - either directly, cos their parents act the same way, or indirectly by overly-soft parenting. Both of which apply, to both Pearl, and Angelica.
Mr Krabs also cries and thrashes when he doesn't get what he wants (money). Mr Krabs also doesn't accept "no" for an answer, and often keeps pushing and pressuring, after being told "no". She sees this behavior. Mr Krabs never tries to put a stop to Pearl's behavior, and always just gives her what she wants.
Angelica's mother is a powerful business woman who is basically in charge of both her business, and her marriage - so Angelica sees her mother just telling people what do, and people doing it, so she does the same. Angelica's father basically has no power, and does what the mom says - and so does the same with Angelica. Her mom leaves all the responsibility of parenting to the dad, but also overrides him if he tries to tell angelica "no".
If, by some chance, a kid did see these behaviors, and tried to copy them, it would still come down to the parents - parents who allow them to get away with it - or parents who make sure the kid learns better than to act like that.
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Are you serious @uncommondenominator?
Could they have learned that behavior from Pearl though?
What are your thoughts?
Given that bratty teenagers existed long before spongebob did, I daresay that they didn't learn it from Pearl.
Kids typically learn this type of behavior from their parents - either directly, cos their parents act the same way, or indirectly by overly-soft parenting. Both of which apply, to both Pearl, and Angelica.
Mr Krabs also cries and thrashes when he doesn't get what he wants (money). Mr Krabs also doesn't accept "no" for an answer, and often keeps pushing and pressuring, after being told "no". She sees this behavior. Mr Krabs never tries to put a stop to Pearl's behavior, and always just gives her what she wants.
Angelica's mother is a powerful business woman who is basically in charge of both her business, and her marriage - so Angelica sees her mother just telling people what do, and people doing it, so she does the same. Angelica's father basically has no power, and does what the mom says - and so does the same with Angelica. Her mom leaves all the responsibility of parenting to the dad, but also overrides him if he tries to tell angelica "no".
If, by some chance, a kid did see these behaviors, and tried to copy them, it would still come down to the parents - parents who allow them to get away with it - or parents who make sure the kid learns better than to act like that.
So that would mean...I am correct in my assertion that Mr. Krabs is enabling Pearl?!?
How do you break the cycle?
Hmm...
How do you break the cycle?Hmm...
You are correct - by always giving her what she wants, he is enabling her. Mr Krabs also pressures other people into letting her have her way, too, which only further enables her.
Either Mr Krabs has to put his foot (feet?) down and tell her no, and stick to it - or, someday she'll run into a situation she can't cry her way out of, and maybe she'll learn.
Pearl has been shown to take whatever she wants from her dad, even without asking first. Someday she might take something from someone who isn't so ok with it, and calls the police. Mr Krabs might try to step in and get her out of trouble, but that would also further enable her. She needs to suffer the consequences for her behavior.
Ideally, a parent shouldn't let it get that far into the kid's life to begin with. The older they get, the longer it goes on, the harder it would be to get the kid to realize it's wrong. It's even harder if the parent acts that way, too, cos they've set the example the kid is following.
Some people act like Pearl well into adulthood, if not their entire lives.
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How do you break the cycle?Hmm...
You are correct - by always giving her what she wants, he is enabling her. Mr Krabs also pressures other people into letting her have her way, too, which only further enables her.
Either Mr Krabs has to put his foot (feet?) down and tell her no, and stick to it - or, someday she'll run into a situation she can't cry her way out of, and maybe she'll learn.
Pearl has been shown to take whatever she wants from her dad, even without asking first. Someday she might take something from someone who isn't so ok with it, and calls the police. Mr Krabs might try to step in and get her out of trouble, but that would also further enable her. She needs to suffer the consequences for her behavior.
Ideally, a parent shouldn't let it get that far into the kid's life to begin with. The older they get, the longer it goes on, the harder it would be to get the kid to realize it's wrong. It's even harder if the parent acts that way, too, cos they've set the example the kid is following.
Some people act like Pearl well into adulthood, if not their entire lives.
Exactly
Mr. Krabs has literally created a monster with Pearl and the only way to undo or reverse all of the damage he caused is to either stop enabling her (the easy way) or by Pearl suddenly being confronted with a situation she cannot just cry her way out of (the hard way) like you said @uncommondenominator!! !
But for that to work, the writers would have to change the characterizations of both Mr. Krabs and Pearl which is VERY risky so they probably won't ever do it for that reason!
Also I believe there is another reason why Pearl constantly cries and it relates to Marine Biology:
She is a whale and an alternate word for "crying" is "wailing" so I think Stephen Hillenburg put that whole thing into the show on purpose to play off of Pearl's species...
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I know what needs to happen in order to wake up Pearl!
Mr. Krabs MUST die!! ! ! ! !
I'm 100% serious
This is the only way that Pearl can learn that she cannot always rely on her father!
Is that what you meant by "an unforeseen circumstance" @uncommondenominator?
I mean, that MIGHT do the trick, but that's not the only thing that could cause it to happen. It's possible that she could get in deep enough trouble that mr krabs either can't help her, or won't help her.
Presumably, if she did something that was really REALLY bad, and it also cost mr krabs a LOT of money, he might get sick of it and decide enough is enough, and try to put a stop to it.
But like I said, lots of teens and young adults act the same way - what often happens is, they move out, move away, and then get in trouble while daddy isn't around to call for help. Typically it's something like drunk driving or theft or battery, and the police don't care who your daddy is, they're gonna arrest you. If they keep doing it, the consequences get worse.
Of course, some bratty kids just grow up into bratty adults. And that's how we get "karens".
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I know what needs to happen in order to wake up Pearl!
Mr. Krabs MUST die!! ! ! ! !
I'm 100% serious
This is the only way that Pearl can learn that she cannot always rely on her father!
Is that what you meant by "an unforeseen circumstance" @uncommondenominator?
I mean, that MIGHT do the trick, but that's not the only thing that could cause it to happen. It's possible that she could get in deep enough trouble that mr krabs either can't help her, or won't help her.
Presumably, if she did something that was really REALLY bad, and it also cost mr krabs a LOT of money, he might get sick of it and decide enough is enough, and try to put a stop to it.
But like I said, lots of teens and young adults act the same way - what often happens is, they move out, move away, and then get in trouble while daddy isn't around to call for help. Typically it's something like drunk driving or theft or battery, and the police don't care who your daddy is, they're gonna arrest you. If they keep doing it, the consequences get worse.
Of course, some bratty kids just grow up into bratty adults. And that's how we get "karens".
But the sudden death of her father should snap Pearl out of her delusions!! !
Without having her dad to fall back on as a safety net she will be forced to do things on her own
I wish that Mr. Krabs could actually and truly pass away but Nick would NEVER allow a character from any of their cartoons to die!
Especially a character from SpongeBob SquarePants
Although...we saw a preview of what that would be like in the episode "Lame and Fortune" with his funeral so never say never?
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I know what needs to happen in order to wake up Pearl!
Mr. Krabs MUST die!! ! ! ! !
I'm 100% serious
This is the only way that Pearl can learn that she cannot always rely on her father!
Is that what you meant by "an unforeseen circumstance" @uncommondenominator?
I mean, that MIGHT do the trick, but that's not the only thing that could cause it to happen. It's possible that she could get in deep enough trouble that mr krabs either can't help her, or won't help her.
Presumably, if she did something that was really REALLY bad, and it also cost mr krabs a LOT of money, he might get sick of it and decide enough is enough, and try to put a stop to it.
But like I said, lots of teens and young adults act the same way - what often happens is, they move out, move away, and then get in trouble while daddy isn't around to call for help. Typically it's something like drunk driving or theft or battery, and the police don't care who your daddy is, they're gonna arrest you. If they keep doing it, the consequences get worse.
Of course, some bratty kids just grow up into bratty adults. And that's how we get "karens".
But the sudden death of her father should snap Pearl out of her delusions!! !
Without having her dad to fall back on as a safety net she will be forced to do things on her own
I wish that Mr. Krabs could actually and truly pass away but Nick would NEVER allow a character from any of their cartoons to die!
Especially a character from SpongeBob SquarePants
Although...we saw a preview of what that would be like in the episode "Lame and Fortune" with his funeral so never say never?
Also, perhaps that is the reason why sometimes Mr. Krabs doesn't give Pearl what she wants!! !
I think what is happening is he is forcing Pearl to become more mature & independant because Mr. Krabs realizes he won't be around forever to constantly bail his daughter out of trouble?
