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I recently started a program with Mental Health Services designed to find appropriate work for me with the disabilities I have. Is there anything like that available where you live?
The thing about work is that if it was pleasant they wouldn't pay you for it. You have to decide if its worth it to you to give up your time. For me it is because I don't want to stay on support payments forever.

I think that's a wise move.

You don't always have to "take the bull by the horns" when you work. There are jobs which are quite passive, actually.

Yes. And often there are charitable agencies that have contacts who are willing to hire disabled people. This is the case with the program I'm in.

Pot calling kettle.. I was giving you a lesson in empathy. Now you know how it feels when you make assumptions about me when you clearly don't know anything about me, what I think, or what I've been through.



I believe you.

Awesome! I'm going to see what my new psychologist whom I found online that specializes in Aspergers can tell me.

Cool

Well I just discovered something. I had not heard the expression "pull yourself by the bootstraps" before. When you said it was the same as "take the bull by the horns" I was thinking it probably was, but as it turns out, it actually is not meaning the same thing (maybe everyone else knew this, but I didn't). The expression I used means to face your problems head on and do something about it (like if you have a bull running at you, you take its horns and you say "no you will not stampede over me!" or something like this). The one you are using, it means to improve your situation by your own means. There is a difference between the two and I wish I had taken the time to look it up before.

What Androbot01 describes is a perfect example of what I was thinking of with taking the bull by the horns.

Ok so you are playing games...that is good to know.

I am sorry that you feel this way. I felt that I got the information about you from your blog, which you linked. I didn't psychically know that you got arrested for bad driving- I actually read that in the blog rather than using my psychic powers. I have not given you such a blog outlining the problems in my life and who I blame for it, however. That's why I feel that there is a difference. Also, I agree that my last post about your topic was harsh- harsher than my usual (I thought so anyway). The reason for this was not so much to hurt your feelings, as to try a different method, because my first post on here, I tried to be very nice, and you mocked the style of writing, so I figured be less nice and you might find it less laughable. This was how I was thinking when I wrote it like that anyway.

I took the initiative and looked them up. To me, they seem very similar so I will just say I don't grasp the difference. In this case grabbing the bull by its horns failed for me as I don't understand the difference.



Yes, she was direct. She gave me some possible specific answers and did not treat my attitude as the antecedent.





I wasn't playing games. I felt you were not empathetic to how my mind works so I taught you empathy.



I've given you my answers and my rebuttals in my posts. For me, certain things were unknown unknowns possibly unknown knowns.

Unfortunately that didn't work out for you either. You didn't teach me empathy- you lost a lot of credibility. I haven't been a 12 year old girl in a while and believe it or not, I don't miss it. I have no desire to play vindictive mind games and I don't like conversing with people who do. I had my fill of it when I was 12.

Oh My God! I understand now what you're saying. It has finally clicked after I looked up empirical. First, empirical means what I gather through all of my senses.

Let's look at Hume's quote.

[url]“If we take in our hand any volume; of divinity or school metaphysics, for instance; let us ask, Does it contain any abstract reasoning concerning quantity or number? No. Does it contain any experimental reasoning concerning matter of fact and existence? No. Commit it then to the flames: for it can contain nothing but sophistry and illusion.”
― David Hume [/url]

What you're saying is I need to take my abstract logical reasoning of things like deduction and induction and compare it to our empirical existence or what I take in through my senses like how the culture and society works in today's time period. What I need to do is to use the laws of our Empirical existence which the cultural constraints of different societies is but one of them and use them to constrain the abstract logic of maxims like

"Nothing is guaranteed in life." In our empirical existence plausibility does exist and one can determine different odds. Based upon what occurs in our empirical environment It is true based upon empirical evidence that if one does something one will more likely have success is some areas even though this is not guaranteed. This isn't based upon ideas but based upon what we gather as empirical evidence from our concrete and empirical reality.

Let's say I have set A that contains subsets B,C, D. What you're saying my friend is if subset D does not match what occurs in our empirical reality then consider it delusion and throw it in the flames like Hume says. Is this correct?

I have no desire to converse with those who give hackneyed advice, one liners, and hackneyed slogans that are as useful as vomit. Similar to telling me to be more positive which again tells me nothing. True, it didn't work out for me. I have no idea why. It should have worked, yet didn't. This is but one out of many things that I don't grasp.

You claim "Grabbing the Bull by its horns" and "Pull oneself up by his bootstraps" are different. When I look them up, to me they're based in the same ideas which is self-reliance. You say they're completely different. I do not grasp how. What you're telling me is to work it out myself. I have missing details and a fundamental understanding of certain things and I don't even know what details or understanding that I'm missing. So, I can't look up what I don't know what to look up. You say grab the bull by its horns. Metaphorically, what if I don't see the bull and it was invisible to visible light?

You're saying to figure it out myself. Like your child, I literally am unable to do that and I do hope that in spite of your intolerance, hatred and non- empathetic attitude I hope your child is able to succeed whatsoever. When I look at your other posts, the impression I get most of all is intolerance. Without that tolerance and understanding, then it will be highly plausible that your child will have challenges in addition to his ASD that will impair his ability to relate with others, succeed with others and to succeed in life.

There are a whole lot of people who have little tolerance or understanding at least in my country (The USA) and I do not see a pretty picture for those on the spectrum or those with other disabilities. SSDI, has had increases to the number who successfully claim it so if the numbers out there are accurate including the stat that 80% of ASDs are unable to get or keep jobs or they're underemployed based upon inductive reasoning I don't believe the future bodes well for those with disabilities especially in our country with the current political zeitgeist of neo-liberalism.

The whole idea behind SSDI is that I am at a complete disadvantage compared to other people who are able to work. If I could have "taken the bull by its horns" then how was able to claim SSDI so easily the first time I applied when most people who apply are unapproved the first time around. I still was able to still have some jobs in past. I examined my own work history. I didn't earn them. I didn't seek them out and look for them. I did nothing active whatsoever to seek a job. All jobs that I somehow received fell into my lap by chance.

When I had to actively do a job search. It didn't quite work out for me. Maybe this isn't other people's experiences but it has been mine. I have had more success in obtaining jobs and being inactive by my doing nothing then by doing something and being active.

For me, the maxim of "Nothing in life is Guaranteed" held up for me in the opposite way that it did for others. Why wouldn't I go with what worked for me in the past and ditch what didn't work for me? If the sun has risen every day of my life so far wouldn't it be safe to conclude that more than likely the sun has a high chance of rising again? Why would I actively do and seek if in my case it has a high probability of failure for me and my inactivity when it came to a job search gave me better success?

I can document my history that gives empirical evidence that my inactivity when it came to a job search somehow correlated to more success than my actively seeking a job.

KraftieKortie, the empirical evidence based upon my experiences seem to point to my logical conclusions valid as well.

I am leaving WP. I'm posting this only so I'm more tempted to follow through (yes I am low on resolve sometimes). There are some awesome people on here and I've learned some good stuff but overall I think it is bad for me.

By the way, if you don't want a job, then don't get a damn job. You asked though. When you ask a question, you open it up to more than one point of view.

I still think WP would be a good resource for you--especially the Parents' section.

I'm sorry you're leaving. I like your posts.

I never said nor implied that I didn't want a job.

My response: Be prepared for further questioning of what you say and the assumptions behind it and be prepared for me to question your point of view especially if I don't grasp it or some aspects of it makes no sense.

It's like you and some people I've met has this rose colored blinders firmly in place. How do you presume that anyone and everyone can presume to "grab the bull by its horns?" It is the problem with this whole positivity and looking at the bright side thing. I ask legitimate questions and the answer I'm told is I'm being to negative or look on the bright side or simply to never give up. Why?

The problem with these things is it refuses to look at the dark side of things and to mitigate the dark aspect of things. What if with all your efforts and hard work your children is still not able to succeed whatsoever or get a job and keep a job at all? What then? What is the next step? What is the plan? These are legitimate questions that I am asking. The problem with positivity is that it has the potential to put one into a delusional mindset it becomes a from of puritanism in which one is forced to purge his mind of sinful or in this case negative thoughts instead of attacking the negative thoughts with actual solutions and critical thinking instead it is more positivity and more hackneyed slogans that have no concrete substance to them.

http://www.amazon.com/Bright-Sided-Posi ... 0312658850

Why are you leaving wrongplanet? I do not know but I will guess and I could be wrong. Maybe it is because I'm asking questions on beliefs you and others hold dearly and you are experiencing what is called a cognitive dissonance.

Again, I admit that I may be under some kind of delusion and I will ask once more. If I am delusional and my thinking is truthfully faulty how can I use my own delusional, irrational and faulty thinking to get to something sound? How can I "grab the bull by its horns" if my thinking is delusional which causes a form of ignorance and if evil comes from ignorance like Socrates says then any evil then I have committed on here towards you and anyone else is based upon my own ignorance and my own delusion, right?

How can I get to sound thinking so I know what good is so I can be able to do good to and for others on here and to "grab the bull by the horns" in the manner I'm supposed to grab it by (figuratively speaking of course)? How do I do this?

Can you prove that any evil that I've commited towards you WelcomeToHolland or anyone else was done intentionally and what can I do to gain understanding so I can mitigate my own understanding so I can reduce and eliminate any evil acts in my actions I do?

Just to beat the bull to death, grabbing it's horns may not be the best strategy. I would approach from the side and scratch his ear. That is, small subtle steps have great impact over time.
But regarding the topic, sometimes the solution comes in reframing the problem. But sometimes things just go wrong and its not obvious what to do, in which case I would mull it over before taking action.

I'm sorry you're leaving. I have enjoyed reading your posts here. Hopefully you will change your mind and stick around and not come visit this thread. I don't think it's healthy to continue visiting a thread if it's upsetting you.