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26 Aug 2009, 11:10 pm

Too bad for any homeschool kids with Aspie parents. Those kids really need to be in school to learn appropriate social behavior-to learn to fit in and to learn to be a leader and to learn to learn and get along with peers. Goodness, especially for your typical kids, let them have friends!



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26 Aug 2009, 11:18 pm

answersfinally wrote:
Too bad for any homeschool kids with Aspie parents. Those kids really need to be in school to learn appropriate social behavior-to learn to fit in and to learn to be a leader and to learn to learn and get along with peers. Goodness, especially for your typical kids, let them have friends!


It really depends. If a child has overwhelming sensory issues and can't function in a school setting, there is no educational or social benefit of any kind to keeping that child in a school. Most parents don't pull out of school lightly; it is usually a last straw.


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26 Aug 2009, 11:40 pm

answersfinally wrote:
Too bad for any homeschool kids with Aspie parents. Those kids really need to be in school to learn appropriate social behavior-to learn to fit in and to learn to be a leader and to learn to learn and get along with peers. Goodness, especially for your typical kids, let them have friends!

:lol:

That's the biggest load of BS I've heard in a long time. My son was in public school until grade 5. Then he was homeschooled and he has, by far, more friends and more successful social interactions now that he's HS than he did when he was in PS. The fact the kids are isolated from social situations is the biggest non-truth of homeschooling out there. :roll:



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27 Aug 2009, 9:23 am

I think that what most people don't know is that most homeschoolers have so many opportunities to get together at homeschool associations sponsored sports, bands, field trips, picnics, book fairs, exchanges, classes, art groups, get-togethers, court dates, political meetings, apprenticeships, conventions, granges, church events, etc, that they need to remember to spend at least some time at home.



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27 Aug 2009, 11:03 am

answersfinally wrote:
Too bad for any homeschool kids with Aspie parents. Those kids really need to be in school to learn appropriate social behavior-to learn to fit in and to learn to be a leader and to learn to learn and get along with peers. Goodness, especially for your typical kids, let them have friends!


I agree this is bs. My son goes to daycare 9-5 or 6 and still he doesn't socialize at all. He just doesn't care, he is happy playing by himself and does not feel the need to involve with others.
I think he gets the social rules and knows what is appropriate but most people just do not do anything for him. Why the pressure when he is happy as is? It kind of resemble my own growing up where occasionally I would find a friend or two but mostly went by on my own. Yes, I did feel as I do not fit in but would never camouflage and people accepted my freakeness. That stuborness helped me to avoid bullying. Basically I could not be bullied because I did not care what bullies said and when physically attacked I fought back (just a couple of times).

I honestly do not understand why so much pressure on socializing. Yes, I understand that it is nice to fit in but than people complain that their kids start drugs and sex just to fit in. No need for all of us to fit the mold. There are many ways in life to be happy and successful in our own terms.


And I would personally absolutely hate to be a leader. Why is that so hard to understand?



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27 Aug 2009, 11:12 am

I remember talking to a woman whose job was to counsel the pregnant students at the local highschool. She had a busy caseload. And yet asked me why I didn't want my children to go to public school to be socialized.



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27 Aug 2009, 11:54 am

answersfinally wrote:
Too bad for any homeschool kids with Aspie parents. Those kids really need to be in school to learn appropriate social behavior-to learn to fit in and to learn to be a leader and to learn to learn and get along with peers. Goodness, especially for your typical kids, let them have friends!


Public school doesn't teach appropriate social behaviors. I think homeschoolers are more social. They can get together for clubs during the day or fun activities. They don't sit at home with the curtains shut.



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27 Aug 2009, 11:08 pm

CelticGoddess wrote:
answersfinally wrote:
Too bad for any homeschool kids with Aspie parents. Those kids really need to be in school to learn appropriate social behavior-to learn to fit in and to learn to be a leader and to learn to learn and get along with peers. Goodness, especially for your typical kids, let them have friends!

:lol:

That's the biggest load of BS I've heard in a long time. My son was in public school until grade 5. Then he was homeschooled and he has, by far, more friends and more successful social interactions now that he's HS than he did when he was in PS. The fact the kids are isolated from social situations is the biggest non-truth of homeschooling out there. :roll:


I also agree that this idea is very outmoded. I was told by many people years ago that it was important for my son to be around “normal” kids. However, my son bloomed after being removed from "normal" kids. He learns socialization at his aspie school as part of his curriculum and he has no fear of being treated badly by his peers. One kid was bad to another kid in class, but my son is his friend and protected him. Then that kid was moved. I’m afraid he was back this summer, hope not in the fall! Otherwise, it’s pretty ok there.

Like someone mentioned before, normal home schooled kids have their moms around, and are often “safer” to have around autistic type kids. My son’s Boyscout troop is similar. It’s safe, but those kids left to their own devices, I’m sure, could be cruel. And often, they act like normal rambunctious kids that don't listen to parents, and that stresses my son. However, he has learned to ignore it when they get that way, leave and find a quiet spot. But if he had to deal with that every day... Ugh!

I live in fear that the school district will turn around and say my son should be mainstreamed! It would mean the end of progress, I’m sure! Not just because the school district is completely and thoroughly incompetent and can't teach a dog to sit, but because he’d be so stressed out In that “world” he wouldn’t have energy for learning.



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27 Aug 2009, 11:19 pm

AnotherOne wrote:
answersfinally wrote:
Too bad for any homeschool kids with Aspie parents. Those kids really need to be in school to learn appropriate social behavior-to learn to fit in and to learn to be a leader and to learn to learn and get along with peers. Goodness, especially for your typical kids, let them have friends!


I agree this is bs. My son goes to daycare 9-5 or 6 and still he doesn't socialize at all. He just doesn't care, he is happy playing by himself and does not feel the need to involve with others.
I think he gets the social rules and knows what is appropriate but most people just do not do anything for him. Why the pressure when he is happy as is? It kind of resemble my own growing up where occasionally I would find a friend or two but mostly went by on my own. Yes, I did feel as I do not fit in but would never camouflage and people accepted my freakeness. That stuborness helped me to avoid bullying. Basically I could not be bullied because I did not care what bullies said and when physically attacked I fought back (just a couple of times).

I honestly do not understand why so much pressure on socializing. Yes, I understand that it is nice to fit in but than people complain that their kids start drugs and sex just to fit in. No need for all of us to fit the mold. There are many ways in life to be happy and successful in our own terms.


And I would personally absolutely hate to be a leader. Why is that so hard to understand?


Hey, I've mentioned it before, but wanted to say it again for your child’s future :) I think, especially if your child is going to have to go to a normal school, that it would be good to teach kids how to get away without feeling like a social ret*d. It took me until the 11th grade to finally realize I could just find a shade tree at lunch time and sit under with a good book. No stress, and if a friend came up to join me, fine, if not also fine. I didn’t look like a dork, I always made it look like I was enjoying myself (which I was, LOL) And was proud of myself for being an independent person, while everyone else was playing the click game.

Wish I had thought to do that from the beginning!

And I agree, the only thing I want to be a leader in is the line at the See's candy store, LOL.