New here- NT mom of autistic angel
My son has diagnosed As, less than 2 years ago, and is dealing with all the high school issues and about life, as well.
I have been so deeply encouraged and quite impressed by the very thoughtful and intelligent advice and input from people (especially older teens and 20 somethings).
I spend many nights up late reading from all forums. Sometimes I get overwhelmed. I see there is a lot to deal with and no easy answers. But I so appreciate the many really decent people here. (especially you moms).
I have TONS of hope for my son. We didn't know why he was "different", but now we do. So he's trying to understand himself and how to handle life with the needs he has(thank God for IEP, never heard of it til the end of 10th grade!)
I love reading all that is shared here. I need to know all I can from people who have been there!
That's exactly how I feel since I was pointed in this direction. (another user also on another Autism forum) Overwhlemed, yet KNOWING I have found a place with real advice, real support and REAL answers.
In real life, I feel very alone when it comes to parenting a child with Autism. My friends pity me and OMG I HATE THAT. When I think of issues that have going on, THAT'S some crap to pity! (seriously, the people I know are wacked
Thank you for the welcome. I have only been here a couple of days and I feel right at home.
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Lainne, proud mother to Kaelyn Grace.
"Wisdom is knowing I am nothing, Love is knowing I am everything, and between the two my life moves."
-Nisargadata Maharaj
Welcome to wrong planet,
I feel a need to respond to this:
Its a testable hypothesis: do people recover faster if you give then useless pills or just tell them to wait? Divide people randomly into two groups then wait and see. The test has been done (repeatedly) and the answer is clear, useless pills do help people recover faster. (that's still no reason to give antibiotics, a sugar pill or fish oil with a fancy name and good packaging is best)
There's no reason to fear modern medicine, just find a good doctor and tell him that you prefer a sugar pill or fish oil to antibiotics for your placebos, turns out they still help even when you know they don't do anything.
We tried for a very short time the diets they didn't do anything for Jake other then piss him off. The probiotic is for his lactose intolerance but it does have trace amounts of casin in it so if your child can't hanndle the casin I'd avoid the one we're using but to be fair the one I buy is labled just for lactose intolerance and has the casin content on the back of the box.I'm not sure if that company makes on that is casin free but in case they do the name is Digestive Advantage and there stuff can be bought of the shevel at walmart for around $8 a box for 32 tabs. They make a few diffrent kinds of probitics. I also have him drinking Lifeway Kerfir it's gluten free but I'm not sure about the casin. It's helped keep his gut in check and seems to ward off the bugs that are going around so we all drink it. I think the pro-bugs drinks that are package in a fun way to get the kids to drink them are casin free.
I feel a need to respond to this:
Its a testable hypothesis: do people recover faster if you give then useless pills or just tell them to wait? Divide people randomly into two groups then wait and see. The test has been done (repeatedly) and the answer is clear, useless pills do help people recover faster. (that's still no reason to give antibiotics, a sugar pill or fish oil with a fancy name and good packaging is best)
There's no reason to fear modern medicine, just find a good doctor and tell him that you prefer a sugar pill or fish oil to antibiotics for your placebos, turns out they still help even when you know they don't do anything.
My fear is more than likely irrational, but the times i have been truly sick in my life, I have often been undiagnosed for so long, complication arose or I was given medicine that made me worse off (cdiff colitis from an antibiotic I would have been fine without).
While I completely agree with the rest... " The test has been done (repeatedly) and the answer is clear, useless pills do help people recover faster. " I think if we ALL realized this, the power of the mind and did give our own immune system the chance to at least TRY and fight before the meds, hopefully we would require less. Just my thoughts.
Unfortunately, I don't think the placebo effect would work on me. I probably convince myself to STAY sick when they are working.
*screwy head*
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Lainne, proud mother to Kaelyn Grace.
"Wisdom is knowing I am nothing, Love is knowing I am everything, and between the two my life moves."
-Nisargadata Maharaj
The risk is if you wait and give your immune system a chance, and it really is a serious problem, your wasting vital time that could quite literally be the diffrence between life and death.
Most of the time it will be fine and in the long run healthy, but with these stakes you don't want to take risks when you get unusual symptoms.
Most of the time it will be fine and in the long run healthy, but with these stakes you don't want to take risks when you get unusual symptoms.
I thought I was clear, I apologize for not being so. I mean, if I have a mild upper respiratory infection and am otherwise healthy- I choose to try and let my immune system take care of it. If I notice a worsening of symptoms, of course I will get antibiotics. My FEAR is that with doctors handing out antibiotics like candy- we are building resistant strains of bacterial and viral infections. For the people this doesn't work for- surely they can do what they wish. I choose to try and allow my own body to do the work without the use of meds. That's just me. Certainly not trying to impose my will on others. Just my opinion, based from my own experiences and what doctors have told me when I pressed them for answers.
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Lainne, proud mother to Kaelyn Grace.
"Wisdom is knowing I am nothing, Love is knowing I am everything, and between the two my life moves."
-Nisargadata Maharaj
Last edited by KaeLainne on 18 Aug 2009, 12:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I think I still have a lot to read before I venture down the probiotics path.
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"Wisdom is knowing I am nothing, Love is knowing I am everything, and between the two my life moves."
-Nisargadata Maharaj
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I have autism but I am not a basher. I like helping other people including parents see autism from the inside out. Well welcome to wrong planet. I am new here 2.
I have a story to share with you. I was diagnosed with moderate to severe pdd and later autism as a kid. when I was 12 years old I had some sort of "awakening" and for the first time became aware of those around me. Mom said it was because I was placed into a hearing impaired classroom and I was taught sign language. I also have a hearing impairment. well about a year after sign language I started waking up as I call it. Alot of my autism is still here but I am more socially aware and better able to communicate because of it. Something about sign language that teaches a visual form of communication seemed to get through to me when other forms could not. ''
However this awakening caused problems of their own. I had some tests done in cumberland maryland and they said that my mind was like someone who woke up from a very long coma with severe impulse control problems and problem solving difficulties and problems with consiquential thinking which were a bad combination for me since I set off the fire alarm at the hospital with baby powder because I heard someone else said it works. I had no idea that the whole hospital would have to evacuated including the very ill. I felt very bad for that...it just never occured to me the consquences of my actions.
so anyway progress always comes with pitfalls too..and sometimes those pitfalls can get deep as your child gets older and needing more independance.
I would advise for to remember to take care of yourself and other members of the family too because she is going to need a healthy enviroment to grow in....and you need to take care of yourself because she needs you.
Jojo
I have a story to share with you. I was diagnosed with moderate to severe pdd and later autism as a kid. when I was 12 years old I had some sort of "awakening" and for the first time became aware of those around me. Mom said it was because I was placed into a hearing impaired classroom and I was taught sign language. I also have a hearing impairment. well about a year after sign language I started waking up as I call it. Alot of my autism is still here but I am more socially aware and better able to communicate because of it. Something about sign language that teaches a visual form of communication seemed to get through to me when other forms could not. ''
However this awakening caused problems of their own. I had some tests done in cumberland maryland and they said that my mind was like someone who woke up from a very long coma with severe impulse control problems and problem solving difficulties and problems with consiquential thinking which were a bad combination for me since I set off the fire alarm at the hospital with baby powder because I heard someone else said it works. I had no idea that the whole hospital would have to evacuated including the very ill. I felt very bad for that...it just never occured to me the consquences of my actions.
so anyway progress always comes with pitfalls too..and sometimes those pitfalls can get deep as your child gets older and needing more independance.
I would advise for to remember to take care of yourself and other members of the family too because she is going to need a healthy enviroment to grow in....and you need to take care of yourself because she needs you.
Jojo
Thank you so much. I really appreciated that welcome! I can see how there would/will be issues that arise. I can't say I am "prepared" for them, because I have no idea what they will be, but I know they're in our path ahead. I am so happy to hear you had such progress with sign language. We tried some with our daughter, but her motor skills were delayed as well at the time and we didn't get very far and then she started with a lot more words. We have had several hearing tests done and as far as they can tell- they were normal. I plan on having them tested AGAIN, now that she i more verbal and interactive... I am sure this will make the tests EASIER.
As far as me, I'm definitely working on me
Thank you so much for sharing your story!! I love hearing things like this!
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Lainne, proud mother to Kaelyn Grace.
"Wisdom is knowing I am nothing, Love is knowing I am everything, and between the two my life moves."
-Nisargadata Maharaj
Hello
I just wanted to add a bit of hope. My son was much like that too, and yet somehow, he is growing into an amazing young man. Yes, there aren't enough resources for these kids, especially in other states (I'm in California, and we have some of the best help really, it scares me what I hear from other people in other states!) but in the end, I think the most important thing we can provide is an emotionally safe place for them to be and express themselves without pressure.
The thing that got my son talking was curiosity and not being able to communicate any other way. We had a policy of always stopping what we were doing when he tried to talk to us, and give him our full attention. We would try to understand, and understandably, this was frustrating for him, but we always supported him, and tried to help him out deducing his question. It took a while but before we knew it, he could talk quite a bit. His sentences were badly structured and he'd always use weird combos of words to express ideas due to his lack of vocabulary. He also has a processing issue. This is separate from Autism, though. More akin to dyslexia.
Anyway, I wish you good luck on your journey. I think you and your daughter will do very well. Never release the vision of your daughter living a full, normal life. People will tell you she will never be 100%, but I believe she and all these kids CAN be 100%. Sure, their sense of humor will be different, maybe some will call the "odd", but that’s nothing new in society, and certainly people of a different "color" are more fun to have around than not! Even for NT's
Edit: Sometimes I think Autistic kids are more complexly developed and they simply need more time in developmental stages. I might be full of it, but none of the kids in my son's school are even remotely stupid. They're sharp as tacks but have trouble in certain academic areas, and of course, human interaction. But they’re all learning social skills very well (it’s really something every kid learns, they just do it more instinctively, aspies kind of need to learn it empirically rather than intuitively) It still can be learned! The rest is confidence building.
I suspect strongly that the antisocial aspects are derived from anxiety which I think even NT people can understand. They need a safe environment, and that means building a safe environment around them wherever they go. Everyone that’s mentally healthy to a degree can do that. If someone looks at you cross, you don’t break down and say “everyone hates me!” You go “hum, what’s THEIR problem” ‘cause you know you’re ok, Mom and dad and hubby and friends all love you, so you are OK. You take that with you and it’s your shield. You had to develop that shield in Jr. High School, remember? LOL.
Jojobean, that is such a funny, heartwarming story!! I hope you can see the humor in it too, and don't worry about it much that you caused a bit of chaos
What a ride you're in for, eh? It’s only been a year? It’s almost like the story of Helen Keller! If you’ve never read about her, you might want to look into it. Heck, you are going to have to write a book ![]()
[quote="IngieBee"]Hello
I just wanted to add a bit of hope. My son was much like that too, and yet somehow, he is growing into an amazing young man. Yes, there aren't enough resources for these kids, especially in other states (I'm in California, and we have some of the best help really, it scares me what I hear from other people in other states!) but in the end, I think the most important thing we can provide is an emotionally safe place for them to be and express themselves without pressure.
The thing that got my son talking was curiosity and not being able to communicate any other way. We had a policy of always stopping what we were doing when he tried to talk to us, and give him our full attention. We would try to understand, and understandably, this was frustrating for him, but we always supported him, and tried to help him out deducing his question. It took a while but before we knew it, he could talk quite a bit. His sentences were badly structured and he'd always use weird combos of words to express ideas due to his lack of vocabulary. He also has a processing issue. This is separate from Autism, though. More akin to dyslexia.
Anyway, I wish you good luck on your journey. I think you and your daughter will do very well. Never release the vision of your daughter living a full, normal life. People will tell you she will never be 100%, but I believe she and all these kids CAN be 100%. Sure, their sense of humor will be different, maybe some will call the "odd", but that’s nothing new in society, and certainly people of a different "color" are more fun to have around than not! Even for NT's
Edit: Sometimes I think Autistic kids are more complexly developed and they simply need more time in developmental stages. I might be full of it, but none of the kids in my son's school are even remotely stupid. They're sharp as tacks but have trouble in certain academic areas, and of course, human interaction. But they’re all learning social skills very well (it’s really something every kid learns, they just do it more instinctively, aspies kind of need to learn it empirically rather than intuitively) It still can be learned! The rest is confidence building.
I suspect strongly that the antisocial aspects are derived from anxiety which I think even NT people can understand. They need a safe environment, and that means building a safe environment around them wherever they go. Everyone that’s mentally healthy to a degree can do that. If someone looks at you cross, you don’t break down and say “everyone hates me!” You go “hum, what’s THEIR problem” ‘cause you know you’re ok, Mom and dad and hubby and friends all love you, so you are OK. You take that with you and it’s your shield. You had to develop that shield in Jr. High School, remember? LOL.
I remember those days all too well. I have no worries for my daughter's future in regards to Autism, no matter HOW she turns out, she will be just fine and perfect in my eyes. Im not trying to "change" her, only make things easier for her as she makes her way.
Thank you for your kind words!
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Lainne, proud mother to Kaelyn Grace.
"Wisdom is knowing I am nothing, Love is knowing I am everything, and between the two my life moves."
-Nisargadata Maharaj
