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DW_a_mom
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19 Jan 2011, 1:29 am

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well we Just did a CDSA and no parasites. he did have worms a while ago but we got rid of those.... it is almost like while the "poop" is at the end of the intestines, like it is poisoning him or "juicing" him somehow. it doesnt seem like he is in pain, but more like a toxin is leaching into the body at that point. once the bowel movement is gone, then no problem. Also this is not with every bowel movement. just select ones where he is very very stimmy.

seems weird and have noticed this before


I don't think it needs to be as complicated as a toxin; I suspect that the sensation alone can be enough to be upsetting. You see that a lot in babies and toddlers; why not in an older child with other sensory issues?


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19 Jan 2011, 3:47 pm

Why do you insist that your son is somehow poisoned...or toxic?
Maybe he is just a kid with Autism!



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19 Jan 2011, 8:51 pm

Well, he's just noticed that pre-bowel movement his son has issues and is less communicative.



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20 Jan 2011, 3:14 am

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
Well, he's just noticed that pre-bowel movement his son has issues and is less communicative.


Hes obviously focused on something else. I cant be bothered with other people when Im focused on something happening in my body, and this is magnified for my Autie.



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20 Jan 2011, 5:25 pm

I know that my 5.5 yr old son (has been potty trained since 4) will hold his poop. Sometimes, he will hold it so hard that it will cause him to wet on himself. I think he just doesn't really like the sensation of going poop. But, I make sure that he eats lots of fruits and veggies and fiber and I suggest that he sit on the toilet at least once a day to go so that he stays regular. I can tell that he is feeling a little out of it when he is constipated. So I think this might be why your son is acting more "stimmy" when he has to go. He is probably dreading it, and trying to postpone it. I would suggest trying to stay really in tune with this and work on getting him trained. Even if you have to physically walk him to the potty.

Also, the sleep issues are definitely something to work on. Try getting him into a really good night time routine. Do things that are relaxing and soothing. Such as music, a nice warm bath, reading him a story. Try to keep his bedtime the same. Also, I have heard that melatonin can help with sleep.

I know that every case of autism is different, but I have never done anything biomedical with my son. Other than doing my best to make sure he is eating a balanced diet, (which I know can be difficult for some autistics) And giving him a multi vitamin and a fishoil. And doing lots of occupational, speech and physical therapy.

As far as his speech goes, just spending time with him, playing, reading to him, talking to him, may help. But I think helping him to feel better will be the first step in making some progress.

I know this has to be very tough, but just keep trying to find what it is that will reach your son.

Best of luck to you and your son.



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21 Jan 2011, 3:49 pm

I agree with the other posters about the feeling of needing to go to the bathroom may be part of the reason he tunes out. We have a similar experience though kinda on the opposite end of the spectrum (no pun intended). My little guy can get very agitated and sometimes violent when he needs to go, either #1 or #2. It took me a while to put 2 and 2 together on this. Part of his DREAD of going potty is that he HATES the noise of the toilet flushing. He would often hold it until he was obviously in pain, which would lead to the agitation and aggression, but would still argue about going. At school they make sure he goes when there are no other kids in the bathroom and at home I let him leave the room then I flush the toilet for him. For him, knowing that he doesn't have to deal with so much noise, makes it better.



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22 Jan 2011, 12:03 pm

And as yet another example of 'normal' often transitioning into aspie and autie:

On a lazy Sunday morning, I think many adults will lounge around reading a newspaper until they really need to go to the bathroom.

interesting :D :oops: