Dating & Adolescence
MidlifeAspie wrote:
I agree with you completely, and at the same time understand why those without children of their own cannot understand where you (and I) are coming from. Until they have had kids of their own they are only going to be able to relate to the OP's son and see things from his perspective. Of course, that is not what the OP was looking for by posting in the Parent's Discussion forum. Had she wanted the opinions of those in her son's position she would have posted in the Dating forum.
Ah.. but of course! According to your logic, if I went out to a bar, met some girl, and forgot to use protection, you'll start to actually listen to me. Well, the weekend is just around the corner, so let me get back to you in a few days. As much as I'd like to contribute my opinion, changing my whole life for the next 18 years isn't worth it. I'm out of here; enjoy your elitist "I'm a parent; hear me roar!! !" thread without me. While you're at it, enjoy being in charge while it lasts, because the son will be a legal adult in just a few years. And then what?
Harsh as the last paragraph may sound, it's a dog-eat-dog world we humans created for ourselves. And I'd rather see a young aspie guy doing the manipulating (and that's if he's actually doing that, as opposed to not knowing how to talk to girls), rather than being manipulated. Still, someone needs to tell him to cut it out, because he sure as hell ain't going to find a girlfriend going the "savior" route. It's way better than talking about him like he's a sociopathic monster.
If the son is indeed HFA like the OP pointed out, the odds of him taking advantage of girls are pretty slim. Far more likely, he's just being naive and misguided. Would she still talk about him the same way if he was a player who had a new girlfriend every week? Think about it!
Aspie1 wrote:
Ah.. but of course! According to your logic, if I went out to a bar, met some girl, and forgot to use protection, you'll start to actually listen to me.
Yeah, pretty much. I also discount dog advice from people who have never owned a dog and programming tips from someone who has never touched a computer. This seems pretty basic to me. The bigger question is your own motivation in chiming in with parenting advice when you know you have no background to qualify yourself.
All that being said, your second paragraph did contain some wisdom that the OP should take into account.
Lastly, a fairly large majority of the human population are parents, so the term is not an elitist one. Elitists are always a minority.
MidlifeAspie wrote:
Yeah, pretty much. I also discount dog advice from people who have never owned a dog and programming tips from someone who has never touched a computer. This seems pretty basic to me. The bigger question is your own motivation in chiming in with parenting advice when you know you have no background to qualify yourself.
I can logically understand your argument, but I will never buy into it emotionally. It seems like most parents get something called "childhood amnesia" the minute their first child is born. I noticed that quite a bit on the Parenting forum. They know how to raise children, and most do pretty well. But they forget what it's like to actually be a child! (or teenager) Case in point: OP's son. Is he really a sociopathic monster that most people here are making him out to be, or just a socially stunted teenager acting under foolish, misguided pretenses? Notice the polarity in how most parents said "monster" and how most non-parents said "foolish", although this was caused by the first post being unclear or biased. Neither is good or bad, but that's the polarity I saw, which I found interesting.
I posted because I wanted to add a fresh perspective of someone who has not yet forgotten how unpleasant childhood and adolescence can be, and how kids and teens have to resort to desperate measures more often than they should ever have to. And I did it more respectfully than a few other posters. You probably still think I'm an idiot, but that's just one person's opinion.
