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FalsettoTesla
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29 Apr 2012, 8:52 am

I'm not a parent. But I'm 18 and I still can't tie my shoelaces.



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29 Apr 2012, 9:13 am

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My husband ties his shoes using the "bunny ears" method. The first time I saw it, I said, "What are you doing? That's not how you tie shoes!" :lol:
I'm gonna blame DS's shoelace problems on him. :wink:


I wasn't able to learn how to tie my shoes in kindergarten and wore velcro shoes until I was 14. The "bunny ears" method is still the only way I know how to tie shoes and I recently went back to velcro. I got those shoes with the toes and they have velcro on them.



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29 Apr 2012, 9:37 am

FalsettoTesla wrote:
I'm not a parent. But I'm 18 and I still can't tie my shoelaces.


FalsettoTesla, what is your experience with that as an adult? Am I right in assuming that it's not really a life skill that deserves as much focus as we give it?

And thank you for sharing that! You rock!



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29 Apr 2012, 6:42 pm

momsparky wrote:
FalsettoTesla wrote:
I'm not a parent. But I'm 18 and I still can't tie my shoelaces.


FalsettoTesla, what is your experience with that as an adult? Am I right in assuming that it's not really a life skill that deserves as much focus as we give it?

And thank you for sharing that! You rock!


You are right in assuming that. For shoes that have laces, I just tuck them in. Sometimes it's annoying when the laces slip out, and get wet, and then I have to tuck them in and they get my socks wet.

What is the most difficult is that when people are told/realise that I can't tie my laces, they try to teach me. It's irritating, because if I could manage it, I would have managed it by now.

It's not really a big thing for me at all.



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29 Apr 2012, 7:20 pm

http://youtu.be/vVPKP3Tu7xE Here's a video that talks about a number of no-tie lacing systems and how to install them in tie shoes; it may take someone who can tie shoes to install them, but after that, you never have to tie the shoes again!

FalsettoTesla, I had the same experience learning to ride a bike at the age of 32. I finally did learn (I wanted to show my son that it could be done, even with difficulty) but I'm not a confident rider.



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04 Jun 2012, 10:07 pm

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How old were your kids when they learned to tie their shoes? DS (dear son, is that right?) is almost 7 and I have to send him to school in velco shoes because he can't seem to get the hang of it. I can't send him in lace-ups because when I do, no one will help him with them in school and he comes out at the end of the day with both shoes untied. It makes me a little peeved at his teacher, especially since his class is very small and I know she COULD give him a hand. :?
Anyway, thoughts on this? He practices at home, but only if I make him. Then he gets frustrated quickly and quits. Is it terrible that he can't do it yet? I feel like it's not TOO terrible yet, but it's getting there.


My AS son (now 9) learned to tie his shoes reliably this school year. I'm not convinced this is even the AS...last year he played on a soccer team for Under 8s, in which the coach was always having to help the other boys (presumably, mostly NT) whose laces came undone. We just used Velcro until he got the hang of it, it is not hard to find shoes up to a size 6 with Velcro.



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05 Jun 2012, 4:55 pm

My eldest son is 15 and can now just about tie his laces. My younger son 11, also still finds it hard. We did velcro as long as possible, but once they needed to progress to 'proper' shoes we went for skater-type shoes which are worn loose and can be slipped on and off, requiring only a new tighten-up every few days.

It's definitely a practice thing.



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05 Jun 2012, 4:57 pm

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I'm not convinced this is even the AS...last year he played on a soccer team for Under 8s, in which the coach was always having to help the other boys (presumably, mostly NT) whose laces came undone. We just used Velcro until he got the hang of it, it is not hard to find shoes up to a size 6 with Velcro.

Agree with this. I think these days a lot of kids can't tie laces because they haven't needed to.



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05 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

Don't get too worried, just keep practicing with him. I didn't learn how to properly tie my shoelaces until I was 15 or 16. I was just really good at disguising the issue. My fine motor skills are awful. Practice, practice and more practice is all that I can suggest. Get him one of those stress balls for him to squeeze, it helps strengthen hand muscles. I wish my parents practiced more with me. I actually taught myself from looking at a How To thing on the Internet because it was visual I was able to because I'm a very visual person.



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05 Jun 2012, 6:34 pm

I didn't learn how to tie them until last year, and I'm 26. I still have a problem with not getting them tight enough so they come untied. So I get my dad to check them to see if they're tight enough.



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05 Jun 2012, 9:53 pm

My autistic 4-year-old just jams his feet into his shoes, and all the ones he has are velcro.

Myself, I remember learning to do it at around 7 or so but it took me a couple of years before I could really do it well.



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06 Jun 2012, 7:08 am

I have a 16 year old who can tie his shoelaces, but it's VERY slow. As someone else mentioned here -- the solution is to get shoes that you can loosely tie the shoelaces, and then just slip into the shoes. Problem solved.

We've practiced tieing shoelaces when we are relaxed on the couch, watching television. I think that it takes practice over and over and over again... like a lot of things.



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06 Jun 2012, 7:15 am

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I have a 16 year old who can tie his shoelaces, but it's VERY slow. As someone else mentioned here -- the solution is to get shoes that you can loosely tie the shoelaces, and then just slip into the shoes. Problem solved.

We've practiced tieing shoelaces when we are relaxed on the couch, watching television. I think that it takes practice over and over and over again... like a lot of things.


I don't know if it's a personal thing or what but I need to tie my shoes really tight or I find them really uncomfortable.



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06 Jun 2012, 7:36 am

schleppenheimer wrote:
I have a 16 year old who can tie his shoelaces, but it's VERY slow. As someone else mentioned here -- the solution is to get shoes that you can loosely tie the shoelaces, and then just slip into the shoes. Problem solved.

We've practiced tieing shoelaces when we are relaxed on the couch, watching television. I think that it takes practice over and over and over again... like a lot of things.


I tie my shoes really slow as well.



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08 Jun 2012, 4:02 pm

I was wondering the same thing, my daughter cant tie her shoes, tell the time or use a knife and fork properly, shes 4 and a half and will be going to school full time in September. I think I could do those things before school but Im not sure. I remember having a little wooden shoe with laces on to practice with, and a toy clock with movable hands. We used to play with them as toys and learnt that way. My daughter has no interest in learning these things and cant seem to grasp eating with cutlery, she always uses her hands despite being able to do it when she was 2!

I have googled "what a 4 year old should be able to do" and there are sites that list simple things kids should be able to do at that age, however there is usually much discussion below it from bragging parents going on about how their kid can do all of those things and more! It really varies what NT kids can do so Im sure if varies even more with ASDs!



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08 Jun 2012, 6:07 pm

I'm still very awkward and uncoordinated with cutlery. It takes me forever to cut meat and I can't do it without moving the whole plate. I usually escape to the kitchen first where nobody can see me and cut my meat then sit back down if I'm having a family dinner.