8 yo states can't get thoughts out of my head

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09 Mar 2014, 1:40 am

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I would assume this is in the day time?

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Seems like a no brainer, but I have to ask. In other words the lights are off. Does she sometimes do the same route by night, when they might be on?

At night it's not as much of a concern as the street lights (which are long and snake like) are masked in the darkness by the lights.



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09 Mar 2014, 3:44 am

I was wondering about the vibrations from the lights. I'm not sure if fregauncey should enter to it but....


I see them less but still do, certain lights set me off.


Like before the warnings, on some vid games? My moniter couldn't do a good refreash rate, in other words, I saw things most didn't and didn't like it much. Very uncomfortable. (Actually, I think I saw someone talking about a store and the floruescent lighting, not very long ago. And it used to happen to me, instant melt down, just walking into a store, not always, but I swear, the truth. freaking instant panic attack, bad lighting)

See the problem with me and always has been, Kids can only explain thier feelings to, dare I say, limited expierance? Why I always detest the use of drugs.

Snakes might be and I only say, might be, your daughters way of saying, I don't like the damn vibes the lights give off.

My spell check screwed up again, sorry.

Then again it might be a little motion sickness in that part of the road.

And as always, you just got a hint of a fear. To be honest I don't like snakes much. Deal with it in a local manner, fear isn't always a bad thing. Panic is another matter and will never serve her well.

I do have to giggle a little. The nice thing about having a boss that got bit is, he's been in the lead, he gives you snake pants and then sends you out... I still didn't feel much better, I just made more noise. He wasn't there and I was. It's always local and I will still kill some on sight. Making too much noise always felt wrong, Always felt like a catch 22, but I still did, even if to my own ears.


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09 Mar 2014, 4:47 am

I just got to thinking and this guy doesn't think it funny,,, I don't know if I would have done any better, lol.

My first pro (as in paid) arch trip... we knew we were in rattlesnake area, but still springish, What can I tell them? They weren't real smart other then, make noise. The problem with spring is, often they don't say a thing. They are sluggish. Well he stepped on a baby and it made a noise, his boot was on it. I never saw a whiter guy in all my life, totally panicked and so far away from the spot it happened. I had no idea blood could drain away from a face and not be dead and grey. If he had been armed, he would have blown his foot off.

Add on: I still have your big ass buck knife, come get it, Mike, and hope you got your Lady in Tibet. Talk about a long distance, hard ass relationship, sheese. Your face was sheet white dude and funny, lol, sorry. I pale at other things I still won't admit to.


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09 Mar 2014, 11:54 pm

Today my daughter counted each and every street light and this seemed to remedy her earlier anxiety.



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11 Mar 2014, 7:24 pm

I used to count ceiling tiles. I didn't mean to wet the bed, I just did, sometimes. But the counting was what I did to soothe myself till I had to face the wrath of my mother for having done it.


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12 Mar 2014, 12:05 am

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I used to count ceiling tiles. I didn't mean to wet the bed, I just did, sometimes. But the counting was what I did to soothe myself till I had to face the wrath of my mother for having done it.

Yes interesting. Counting is certainly a good remedy for anxiety



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12 Mar 2014, 1:15 am

cyberdad wrote:
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I used to count ceiling tiles. I didn't mean to wet the bed, I just did, sometimes. But the counting was what I did to soothe myself till I had to face the wrath of my mother for having done it.

Yes interesting. Counting is certainly a good remedy for anxiety


If it's a relaxation technique then I agree. If it's an anxious avoidance behavior than I disagree. Anxiety disorders (including OCD) have in common the concept of anxious avoidance. Essentially what happens is that people learn to avoid certain things to reduce anxiety. Alternatively, they learn a safety behavior that makes them feel temporarily safe. For example, a socially anxious person may learn to always speak quietly when in public so as to avoid being heard saying the wrong thing, or a person with OCD may learn that they must count certain objects when passing a specific location. This is fine in the short term, but it also can teach the lesson (on an automatic level) that the safety behaviors or avoidance are what is keeping the person safe, and the corresponding lesson, that whatever they are trying to be safe from is actually dangerous. The result is that the anxiety gets more powerful over time, and the need to engage in safety behaviors grows as well.

That's a very quick summary, but look up anxiety disorders, OCD and "exposure and response prevention" for more details if you're interested. I just wanted to point those things out in case the counting starts to look like it's more of a need (or compulsion - where she is rigidly following some sort of rule) and less of a general relaxation tool.



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14 Mar 2014, 10:50 pm

Excellent points and nothing I had dismissed, EmileMulder. Thank you.

I do think mine were some kind of build up, as in, a recount to the number of tiles I was supposed to count before actually calling out. I know it was, recounts were needed. I recounted them so many times it isn't funny. It didn't really calm me down to the point I could call out, I think, as trying to goose myself to the point I could and yet again on another night, in other words, laying in wet, and not because everything under the sun hadn't been tried...... I had failed again and I was going to get yelled at for it, my fault and I didn't know why. (when I did sleep, I tended to sleep deep, after the bed wetting sleep was harder to get to and I read a lot, really a lot :)). I have used this method many times, but I can only build myself up for so long and then it fails. Time being a big factor. I can only build up to a big event for so much, like work. (sorry it gets complicated, I wish there was a simple formula for all of this)

While I do show some traits of the OCD, mine is different. I am in the plus column for ADHD and at times have been given "stuff" for it. The same holds true for Anxiety, "stuff". No idea where it sits anymore on my "official", I don't care. Your points are taken into consideration and hope, well understood with those, here and, most concerned.


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