What do you think goes on in an all NT household?

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16 May 2007, 10:37 am

I think keeping up with the Joneses is bad enough for NTs, it would be worse for an Atypical family to try it.



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16 May 2007, 8:54 pm

Who cares about Jones'. Being happy & content w/the universe around you is all that should matter. I feel lucky to be able to stay at home w/my kids, so we don't have the plasma tv, or SUV. The kids have learned that I am not going to buy them the cereal they want until it is on sale. Gotta save money when we can. But, this way they learn to wait & to save money.

I grew up in a NT house, but my brother has ADD, birth defects, & a sever speak problem due to birth defects. Don't know what the ideal norm should be. I envy people who can throw nice get togethers, I haven't got a clue nor do I know enough people to do that with.

But, all NT houses need to experience for at least a month:
- the intense daily mind games
- the constant animal sounds
- meltdowns (aspie style :D )
- the frequent reminders for personal hygiene
- routine conversations of specific topic. (who knew you could talk so much on one topic.) :wink:
- looking past odd habits (that what makes aspies unique, not different)
- not being able to reason a situation out with out knowing the hard facts. (only makes you smarter)
- speaking in literal sense, not implied jokes.



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18 May 2007, 8:42 am

I grew up in a dysfunctional NT household, which left us all scarred. The annoying thing is that my mother wants to change the past and pretend that everything was all right!

My husband and I raised 3 girls in an NT home, and we really didn't fit into the most of the NT categories that have been described. Like everyone, we did the best that we could, and preferred the simple life.

But my daughter's household!! Meltdowns, IEP's, seeking diagnosis, lack of community understanding ... I could go on and on. There is no escape for the parents. Yes, they have it tough!


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18 May 2007, 9:22 am

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I grew up in a dysfunctional NT household, which left us all scarred. The annoying thing is that my mother wants to change the past and pretend that everything was all right!



I am in a similar situation, although I am not sure my mother or father where NT's, I suspect my father was Aspie, my mother just plain nuts with warped and distorted views on how life "should work" and sticking to that model like glue.

I find it hard, because I have come to terms with the fact my parents "did the best they could". They did love us, they just had their own problems. Still though, it is hard to just "walk away" from such a damaging past with giving it no acknowledgement. Yet if I ever bring it up, I am a monster who blames her for everything or won't move past it.

But is is so damn hard when she is the one making grossly inaccurate statements, or ciritsizing the person I am now! Like saying "you have always been depressed and it is your own damn fault! Move on with your life, don't you want to be happy?" 8O What do you say to that? My husband says to smile and nod, she will be gone in a week! :?



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18 May 2007, 1:52 pm

One thing is for sure... In an all-NT household, the teenager(s) would not panic attack if her Mum was one hour late coming home and as a result, dinner was an hour later than the normal time as per the routine. *blushes* :oops:


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18 May 2007, 8:04 pm

One day I was sitting on the back verandah with some NT friends.

I was so content ... admiring the cockatoos and rainbow lorikeets eating (we have a bird feeder on the verandah). I was thinking life couldn't be much better.

One of my friends said, 'Oh look at all the bird poo'. Another said ' Yes, I was just thinking the same thing. I'd hate to be the one who had to clean i!'

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18 May 2007, 8:35 pm

tam1klt2 wrote:
Who cares about Jones'. Being happy & content w/the universe around you is all that should matter. I feel lucky to be able to stay at home w/my kids, so we don't have the plasma tv, or SUV. The kids have learned that I am not going to buy them the cereal they want until it is on sale. Gotta save money when we can. But, this way they learn to wait & to save money.

I grew up in a NT house, but my brother has ADD, birth defects, & a sever speak problem due to birth defects. Don't know what the ideal norm should be. I envy people who can throw nice get togethers, I haven't got a clue nor do I know enough people to do that with.

But, all NT houses need to experience for at least a month:
- the intense daily mind games
- the constant animal sounds
- meltdowns (aspie style :D )
- the frequent reminders for personal hygiene
- routine conversations of specific topic. (who knew you could talk so much on one topic.) :wink:
- looking past odd habits (that what makes aspies unique, not different)
- not being able to reason a situation out with out knowing the hard facts. (only makes you smarter)
- speaking in literal sense, not implied jokes.


My son LOVES to pretend that he's a cat! He meows and hisses.



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19 May 2007, 1:38 am

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I grew up in a dysfunctional NT household, which left us all scarred. The annoying thing is that my mother wants to change the past and pretend that everything was all right!



I am in a similar situation, although I am not sure my mother or father where NT's, I suspect my father was Aspie, my mother just plain nuts with warped and distorted views on how life "should work" and sticking to that model like glue.

I find it hard, because I have come to terms with the fact my parents "did the best they could". They did love us, they just had their own problems. Still though, it is hard to just "walk away" from such a damaging past with giving it no acknowledgement. Yet if I ever bring it up, I am a monster who blames her for everything or won't move past it.

But is is so damn hard when she is the one making grossly inaccurate statements, or ciritsizing the person I am now! Like saying "you have always been depressed and it is your own damn fault! Move on with your life, don't you want to be happy?" 8O What do you say to that? My husband says to smile and nod, she will be gone in a week! :?


Is it possible that your mom feels responsible for you demeanor? Is it possible that your unhappiness makes her feel like a failure as a parent? All parents do wish that their kids grow up happy. (I said happy not ignorant) I always wish that there be something in my power to take my daughter's pain away and it can be very frustrating to realise that it's really not about me now is it?



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19 May 2007, 7:59 am

tam1klt2 wrote:

But, all NT houses need to experience for at least a month:
- the intense daily mind games
- the constant animal sounds
- meltdowns (aspie style :D )
- the frequent reminders for personal hygiene
- routine conversations of specific topic. (who knew you could talk so much on one topic.) :wink:
- looking past odd habits (that what makes aspies unique, not different)
- not being able to reason a situation out with out knowing the hard facts. (only makes you smarter)
- speaking in literal sense, not implied jokes.


tam1kit2, personally I think this is a splendid idea. Actually I've offered to let several families "borrow" Z for a week or so. I've been answered nervous laughter, horrified stares of disbelief, and honest comments such as, "Not on your life, I couldn,t deal with what you do!" :twisted:

Working with Boy Scouts for over a decade I've visited with many supposedly all NT families. Many of them are almost as complicated as many of the people here on WP, only in ways that make me shudder. At least we have a vague idea of what is going on with our kids. Some Nts appear to have no clue, and don't seem to want to know. Of course Z and S are almost perfect children. Want to "borrow" them for week ? Maybe we could trade? :wink:

I'really enjoy reading this thread.


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19 May 2007, 8:21 am

Smelena wrote:
One day I was sitting on the back verandah with some NT friends.

I was so content ... admiring the cockatoos and rainbow lorikeets eating (we have a bird feeder on the verandah). I was thinking life couldn't be much better.

One of my friends said, 'Oh look at all the bird poo'. Another said ' Yes, I was just thinking the same thing. I'd hate to be the one who had to clean i!'

Sigh


Ahh, my friend, watching the cockatoos and lorikeets sounds marvelous. Z would love to visit Austrailia and someday I hope he can afford to do so, I'd like to come with him.

As for the bird poo Z would say, "So what, that's nature. Everything poops!" Have fun and enjoy the peaceful times.


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19 May 2007, 10:55 pm

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Ahh, my friend, watching the cockatoos and lorikeets sounds marvelous. Z would love to visit Austrailia and someday I hope he can afford to do so, I'd like to come with him.

As for the bird poo Z would say, "So what, that's nature. Everything poops!" Have fun and enjoy the peaceful times.


We love bird poo. It fertilizes our plants.

I just remembered a funny story about AussieBoy when he was 2. He had just been potty trained. We were walking through a parklands and he said 'I need to do a wee'.

The toilets were too far and I knew we'd never make it in time, so I told him just to do his wee on the flowers.

I was hoping he'd be a little discrete but he starts weeing on the flowers and yelling 'Yum, yum sayd the flowers, we love wee because it feeds us. Yum yum!'

Yes - spot the kid with the mad gardening mum.



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20 May 2007, 6:16 am

Loved the story, must admit he is not afraid to show his enthuasim. :lol:


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21 May 2007, 6:12 pm

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I guess you are right to some extent, but in a house that doesn't deal with stuff like sensory issues and inflexibility do you think they have to deal with things like broccoli absolutely cannot touch the potatoes? I'm just wondering. I have never lived in a house that would be considered "normal." I know that all families have some issues, but let's face it we certainly have some unique things to deal with on a daily basis.


My friend has a mum who gets worked up at really tiny things like taking a wrong turning or coming home from work, and a sister who is absolutely terrified of escalators - that's the family, the friend may possibly have Aspergers (see my post 'Autistic Spectrum?') but is as yet undiagnosed. The rest of them my friend says are fairly normal.



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21 May 2007, 8:19 pm

Corsarzs,
Thanks! I really enjoy hearing from you. You really have such wonderful wisdom. I have offered other people to take Sport_Rulz for a trade, but, am always turned down. Although, they always want to trade for little bit. But, I know I would miss Sport_Rulz after the 1st day. It's nice to have a break once and a while. Although, I worry about how he's behaving over there. There have been a couple places who haven't asked him to come back. :cry:



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21 May 2007, 8:34 pm

Chris72 wrote:
EarthCalling wrote:
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nannarob wrote:
I grew up in a dysfunctional NT household, which left us all scarred. The annoying thing is that my mother wants to change the past and pretend that everything was all right!



I am in a similar situation, although I am not sure my mother or father where NT's, I suspect my father was Aspie, my mother just plain nuts with warped and distorted views on how life "should work" and sticking to that model like glue.

I find it hard, because I have come to terms with the fact my parents "did the best they could". They did love us, they just had their own problems. Still though, it is hard to just "walk away" from such a damaging past with giving it no acknowledgement. Yet if I ever bring it up, I am a monster who blames her for everything or won't move past it.

But is is so damn hard when she is the one making grossly inaccurate statements, or ciritsizing the person I am now! Like saying "you have always been depressed and it is your own damn fault! Move on with your life, don't you want to be happy?" 8O What do you say to that? My husband says to smile and nod, she will be gone in a week! :?


Is it possible that your mom feels responsible for you demeanor? Is it possible that your unhappiness makes her feel like a failure as a parent? All parents do wish that their kids grow up happy. (I said happy not ignorant) I always wish that there be something in my power to take my daughter's pain away and it can be very frustrating to realise that it's really not about me now is it?


I don't think this is entirely it. Yes, I know my mother would love to see me happy, but she also is mentally ill. She may be an Aspie on top of it, but she is just not right in the head. This is not a put down of her, this is not a child lashing out and calling their mother names, this is the truth. The good news for her, is she has found peace, she lives in a small town, she has figured out a way to have a 1/2 decent life, she is in a "bubble" so to speak. She views me as wrong in most regards, and everything is somehow my fault, when the truth is, it isn't. No one is to blame, life is just the way it is, that is something though, she cannot accept. In her world, someone always has to be at fault.

anyway, I am just to exhausted to dwell on this too much...



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22 May 2007, 11:35 pm

The females all stab each others' backs, and the males are always brawling. :lol: