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mitchellclr
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29 Mar 2006, 4:16 pm

what a pity you dont live in the u.k.... teachers here get sacked for putting there hands on kids, you are not allowed to restrain kids in any way shape or form!



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29 Mar 2006, 9:57 pm

teachers here in the US aren't supposed to touch kids either~i know of a few who've been fired for unlawful restraint......
ljbouchard~ the problem with school systems is that they have protocols in place (on paper) for just about every scenario you could think of....do they use the protocols they have ? that's the real question....some school officials will fight tooth and nail to NOT provide the services that they are supposed to provide under federal law.As a teacher myself, I find it frustrating to deal with an administration whose main focus is the almighty $. Even in a therapeutic SED school, we still struggle with an administration that doesn't want to provide more than they feel they should. i certainly don't think we ( our school system) fight parents as much as other systems , but i still think we fight too much. [/u]



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06 Apr 2006, 10:07 am

Thank God the end result is something you can live with for now.

Have you taken this to the school board that hired the principal who instigated the incident? How about the City Council that is unltimately responsible for hiring that officer?

If for some reason, he goes back to that school, will the staff that knows him be able to meet him at the door or perhaps you could take him straight to class to avoid the offenders?

My son turned violent during 4th grade at his new school. This was totally new behavior and all I could do was assume he had learned bigger, stronger, badder=power and/or self-preservation. At least they never charged him with anything during his assaults. I feared it, but luckily they were somewhat aware of his problems. Not enough to stop what they were doing to trigger it, but at least aware enough to keep him out of court.

The violence and aggression has almost disappeared now that we've been homeschooling for three months. I haven't been here in awhile - mainly trying to get the homeschool thing going - but I think my e-mail is listed here.

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08 Apr 2006, 4:33 pm

three2camp wrote:
Have you taken this to the school board that hired the principal who instigated the incident? How about the City Council that is unltimately responsible for hiring that officer?


That smacks of some good thinking.

Both those meetings go on record. It sets a precedent that can't be erased. If you go to them and speak about the poor way in which the whole affair was handled, and they ignore you--which is almost assured--and then it happens again to your son or someone else ... Zing! Someone can bring legal action with much more force. It sets a precedent of negligence.

This whole affair resonates with my own memories deeply. I often became incensed at strange adults who had the temerity to lay hands on me. "But for the grace of God...", as they say.

Give your son my regards. We'll get there...



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19 Apr 2006, 11:16 am

That is utterly ridiculous. Absolutely incredible. I am astounded that your son was treated in such a manner. To involve police merely because a child refuses to leave an office... that is so ridiculous that I am having trouble finding words to describe it.

Whoever made the decision to involve the police really needs to have his head examined because obviously the proper course of action would have been to contact the parents / you.

And then grabbing your sons arm? Here in Australia, teachers are not supposed to touch students. Not at all. Never. Ofcourse it still happens sometimes, but the teachers are breaking the rules if they do. The teacher is considered to be the one at fault if he/she touches a child.

And then it was taken to court??? I am even more astounded at the inadequacy and inappropriate behavior of the school.

Even if your son was completely NT, involving the police would still have been ridiculous. Now considering he has autism and presumably the school was aware of this, that makes it doubly ridiculous.



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19 Apr 2006, 2:45 pm

I think it would have made a difference if it had been a teacher who "escorted" D instead of a police officer. I don't think police officers are held to as stringent hands-off rules as are teachers. I think, by law, they have to physically be able to enforce the law, which would allowed physical contact.

But why a police officer was even used in the first place is ridiculous, not to mention wholly provocative to an autty already upset. Somebody needed to "escort" that principal if you ask me. :x


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20 Apr 2006, 7:06 am

The original post mentioned the police liason and many public schools now have police officers present. The last two schools where my youngest attended, the officers were part of the DARE program (something about keeping kids off drugs and alcohol). Other schools have them as part of a community-school outreach program.

That still doesn't excuse the way the officer and principal treated the child, but could explain why an officer was present. Our community's officer was present at the school as part of a similar program when my son had one of his meltdowns and he did take a swing at the officer. Luckily, the officer was trained enough or at least smart enough to know better than to physically restrain and shove a kid around before arresting him.