8yr old Daughter fixated with classmate

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cyberdad
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17 Feb 2014, 12:08 am

Update: Met the teacher, she now claims that the other girl is actually the bad influence on my daughter????

I'm really confused? I think it has something to do with my daughter not doing her classwork today. Since the fixation is still a problem today I agreed to trial separating them during class and lunchtime/recess.

I'll see how that transpires.



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17 Feb 2014, 9:37 am

It's almost like they're just making things up as they go along, isn't it?
I once had DS's principal tell me his desk had to be away from other students' because it was a "safety issue". A few days later she said it was because he was talking too much. Was she wrong the first time I spoke to her, or the second? Maybe she was wrong both times. In the meantime, I had been having discussions with DS about not touching people and such, only to have the school change their story about the whole situation!
My only advice is to ask for clarification often, and keep records of who says what on what date. Otherwise I think they just BS you to suit their own purposes.



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17 Feb 2014, 12:21 pm

I would question it also b/c what happened with classwork one day does not speak to their prior complaints. If they are separate during class maybe they should get to be together at recess?



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17 Feb 2014, 4:10 pm

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Yep, now I 100% blame those two boy's families. Glad I have never had to deal with anyone like that.

Our after school center was full of some of the most dedicated, wonderful, loving people I have ever met. And I know they made little money, but that never stopped them from doing the best for the kids; they just jumped in and tried to figure out each unique child, same as a good parent might. My ASD son THRIVED in after-care, as did a HFA boy that had an aide during the school day but not in after care. Yep, those people were SAINTS. But they also had the support of the parents and didn't have to deal with the self-centered crap you had to.

Parents really can be the worst part of any job working with children, can't they?


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17 Feb 2014, 4:14 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Update: Met the teacher, she now claims that the other girl is actually the bad influence on my daughter????

I'm really confused? I think it has something to do with my daughter not doing her classwork today. Since the fixation is still a problem today I agreed to trial separating them during class and lunchtime/recess.

I'll see how that transpires.


You need an objective third party observation. The teacher is too busy to really get a handle on it and only knows for sure that something is not going well. I would have thought the aid could give that level of attention, but maybe the aid isn't either as available as he/she should be, not that insightful, or not that well trained.


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17 Feb 2014, 11:56 pm

Update: weird things happening?

Trial separation was successful...my daughter happily got through her school day....perhaps I don't need the psych after all?

However...now she has a new aide!! (this is weird because normally the parents and child are given at least a week's advance notice if a new aide is starting?) somebody is not telling me the full story here? could it be the two girls going AWOL mean't the aide was changed? I'll see if I can find out tomorrow.

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode/installment of the adventures of Cyberdad's kid :wink:



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18 Feb 2014, 12:27 am

How else are children, to learn how to deal with others in their lives, then to as they grow meet and have friends, that interaction is important to their health and growth. Perhaps parents should take the time for the children to play. schools are becoming to paranoid of issues, and their there to teach so have little patience for children wanting to interact. much of the problem is in teachers feeling overwhelmed as well, when much of that is from trying to fight the flow of things, children are most receptive when their happy and exited, even where friends are concerned, perhaps some friendly peer competitions as learning tools? sports for the two or more students as a way to interact can also be a healthy suggestion. be sure to remind the school, that making a child feel to singled out, can make the child feel unable to focus on the tasks at hand, because of all the anxieties and feeling picked on.



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18 Feb 2014, 1:29 am

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How else are children, to learn how to deal with others in their lives, then to as they grow meet and have friends, that interaction is important to their health and growth. Perhaps parents should take the time for the children to play. schools are becoming to paranoid of issues, and their there to teach so have little patience for children wanting to interact. much of the problem is in teachers feeling overwhelmed as well, when much of that is from trying to fight the flow of things, children are most receptive when their happy and exited, even where friends are concerned, perhaps some friendly peer competitions as learning tools? sports for the two or more students as a way to interact can also be a healthy suggestion. be sure to remind the school, that making a child feel to singled out, can make the child feel unable to focus on the tasks at hand, because of all the anxieties and feeling picked on.


You make a good point.

Unfortunately It seems every time my daughter makes a friend apparently all hell breaks lose in the classroom?



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18 Feb 2014, 1:52 am

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Unfortunately It seems every time my daughter makes a friend apparently all hell breaks lose in the classroom?


In case it helps, I really think that (aside from the issues with school cooperation), this is in the category of good problems to have. You have a child who, despite her social difficulties, is highly socially motivated. Steering that motivation so that it can be productive and lead to lasting healthy relationships may be difficult, but it is much better than if she didn't have the motivation to begin with. I know things are tough right now, but I hope that you can take some solace from that fact. This "problem" of her obsession with peers will serve her well in the long run, although it will probably cause a few headaches along the way.



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18 Feb 2014, 1:55 am

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Unfortunately It seems every time my daughter makes a friend apparently all hell breaks lose in the classroom?


In case it helps, I really think that (aside from the issues with school cooperation), this is in the category of good problems to have. You have a child who, despite her social difficulties, is highly socially motivated. Steering that motivation so that it can be productive and lead to lasting healthy relationships may be difficult, but it is much better than if she didn't have the motivation to begin with. I know things are tough right now, but I hope that you can take some solace from that fact. This "problem" of her obsession with peers will serve her well in the long run, although it will probably cause a few headaches along the way.


Yes, good way to put it.



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18 Feb 2014, 1:59 am

My kids school was quite upset with my son, because he started getting vary argumentative and non respondent to their needs. that all changed after I went in and laid it all out for them and made other suggestions for them to try and follow. when you just ask they will wiggle and try and continue doing things their way, be persistent. my son is a lot more manageable and happy now.



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18 Feb 2014, 2:09 am

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When my daughter was five, I enrolled her in a special needs ELC to prepare toddlers for school. My daughter was the only ASD kid in a class of Aspies (almost all boys). Two things became apparent. Firstly the parents of the children there did scan the other children making mental notes on where the other kids were on the spectrum in relation to their own precious little bundles.

I see this sort of thing too in the faces of parents that see my son.
To be fair I think it's more of a newish parent thing, parents of young kids seem to be competitive whether they mean to or not.



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18 Feb 2014, 2:24 am

If possible, try and talk to other parents of the children in the classrooms your child is affiliated with., get to know them and their children. sometimes more direct consensus of the parents can unfold into more appropriate and thought out actions suitable for all concerned (in and out of school), then that of the more regulated school teachers and system, (and many times in public school settings parents will get vary defensive where in privet they may not,), forcing the schools to instead adapt instead of the other way around..



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18 Feb 2014, 6:24 am

nostromo wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
When my daughter was five, I enrolled her in a special needs ELC to prepare toddlers for school. My daughter was the only ASD kid in a class of Aspies (almost all boys). Two things became apparent. Firstly the parents of the children there did scan the other children making mental notes on where the other kids were on the spectrum in relation to their own precious little bundles.

I see this sort of thing too in the faces of parents that see my son.
To be fair I think it's more of a newish parent thing, parents of young kids seem to be competitive whether they mean to or not.

Perhaps, but after my wife bailed I stayed on but struggled to make even one parent engage in a simple conversation even after 8 sessions?



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18 Feb 2014, 6:28 am

AspergianMutantt wrote:
If possible, try and talk to other parents of the children in the classrooms your child is affiliated with., get to know them and their children. sometimes more direct consensus of the parents can unfold into more appropriate and thought out actions suitable for all concerned (in and out of school), then that of the more regulated school teachers and system, (and many times in public school settings parents will get vary defensive where in privet they may not,), forcing the schools to instead adapt instead of the other way around..


Made one friend with a parent whom thought she got to know us before trying to convince me the best thing for my daughter was a special school to improve her social skills/communication. So it came as a surprise when she found out my daughter was acing the other students in the classwork including her son. This is not atypical. Despite the superficial nature of my fellow parents I would like to persist with the school because of the integration support. This new teacher is, however, not exactly making a massive effort to accommodate my daughter's behavior.



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18 Feb 2014, 9:18 am

cyberdad wrote:
Made one friend with a parent whom thought she got to know us before trying to convince me the best thing for my daughter was a special school to improve her social skills/communication. So it came as a surprise when she found out my daughter was acing the other students in the classwork including her son. This is not atypical. Despite the superficial nature of my fellow parents I would like to persist with the school because of the integration support. This new teacher is, however, not exactly making a massive effort to accommodate my daughter's behavior.


Some parents and teachers are not happy when our kids are mainstreamed, especially if there is a disruption to class (I do get not liking the disruptions esp. once high stakes testing figures in.)