Is childcare good or bad for spectrum babies/ children?
My pediatrician has recommended that my aspie son get lots of interaction with other kids his age. To quote her, "Preschool doesn't teach kids how to read - it teaches kids how to be in school." Whether it is with playdates, preschool, or daycare - he needs lots of interaction to learn how to behave with peers and in a group. It makes sense to me, so we're doing it.
When my child was an infant (I had to return to work when he was 5 weeks old), I paid the extra cash for him to have one-on-one care. I was lucky enough to be able to afford it at the time. It was important to me that my infant get more direct care.
When he turned one, I moved him to a "regular" daycare. His daycare has infants through kindergarten but is not a multi-site corporation (like a Bright Horizons type). My friends have a child of the same age. They used a small corporation (5-8 sites) that was right next door to one parent's office. The difference in our two experiences has been like night and day. Where we have noticed a huge difference that affected care was in teacher turnover. Yes, people change jobs. However, how many teachers did a single kid have in a day/week/month? In Massachusetts, toddler classes have 2 teachers.
At my daycare, they staff the day by having people work four 10-hour days each. This combined with two toddler classrooms = 5 teachers total. Staff is salaried, not hourly, so they don't get a cut in pay on a day when they happen to be able to leave early (due to an early pickup of kids). There has been 1 teacher change in 1.5 years and we got a letter from the director when it occurred.
At their daycare, the staff are hourly and they hire 4 teachers for the same 2 classes. The hours are staggered so that there is an "early" teacher and a "late" teacher (for the times of day. When enough kids are out or have gone home, the teacher punches out. They make less money. They leave. There have been 8 toddler teachers in 1.5 years - more than 100% turnover.
Oh, and my daycare has kids that are strict vegans, vegetarians, allergic to (whatever) and other stuff. Some parents provide yogurt to go with every lunch. There is a stack of special homemade cupcakes in the freezer for the gluten-free kids to have when other kids bring in birthday desserts or other treats. Accommodation is natural because the same few people work with the kids regularly and they know the kids, the parents, and how to provide decent care.
I know it can be a hard $ hit, but try to spend a full day or two with your child in any daycare before you commit to regular days there. See how the teachers are with other kids, ask questions, talk to parents in dropoff and pickup. Use your gut - if it feels like a bad match - it probably is.
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Actually what it teaches depends on the preschool. I volunteered at a preschool/daycare that had two year olds writing their own names, counting to ten, and reading simple sight words.
They were more advanced than the 5 year olds at the uni kindergarten. I feel that was because in large part the uni day care for kids too young for kindergarten was nothing but playtime
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I'm sorry I did vow to stay out of this thread but can't help myself. Why would you allow your child to endure this and why do you think it's the child's job to "get used to it"?
It just makes me sad to think of your baby scratching his ears he is in such distress

Poor little bugger! Couldn't she stay home for a bit longer with him? If she doesn't have to work for financial reasons, she needs to consider staying home until he's older because 9 months is the worst age for separation anxiety.
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There are probably some really great daycares out there. Just have to investigate. Basically learn from my mistake. If you do find yourself thinking of a corporate setting for a child with special needs. A great website to investigate further is
www.ripoffreport.com
That place has the daycare my child attended all over the place. I should have went to that website first but I also let someone talk me into thinking the place was just great to begin with but it wasn't so great.
Things to keep in mind.
Does your child have texture issues with food? Bring this up during the tour. Ask about food policies. I did that with another daycare I was investigating trying to find a better daycare than the corporate one which was supposed to be a good setting. They kinda dodged the truth by saying well....we usually won't bend to the rules because we don't want all the other kids to think they can have special treatment too.
If a daycare says it in that way during a tour it's because they want you to sign and want to give you the impression that maybe it can be arranged but it most likely won't.
A good response from a daycare is expressing an understanding and not treating your child as though they would be deviating from the norm and causing havoc for all the other kids. They will want to work with your child.
My child did eat the snacks there but not the other food. At home if my child will not eat one dish, I give her something else. At home at least I know she's getting fed.
If on the tour they encourage you show up unnannounced but you actually do and they are rude about it and blame you for something going wrong, that is a red flag. You must give two weeks notice before taking your child out. This means even if your child is not there the whole week because you are not impressed, you still must pay.
Nap time. Does your child take naps? If so, it should be okay but if not, your child may be laying on the cot crying the whole nap time. Tell the daycare about how your child responds to nap time.
Sensory issues like sounds. You may want to invest in ear muffs.
Also if you end up in the wrong daycare where people don't understand about autism, they might call you up and tell you that your child is troubled and not allowed to come back.
Also, high turnover rate. Bad daycares can have some really nice teachers. The teachers that are hired for the daycare my child attended did not have much testing. I learned this from the teacher. They hire anyone. The teachers weren't the problem though. It was the policy and the higher ups like supervisors and directors. If you see alot of complaints from ex-teachers, chances are they aren't making it up.
The nicer teachers will end up leaving and getting tired of the supervisor telling them to be a little meaner. For example, a teacher for the room with infants was politely trying to wake up the infant by speaking softly and rubbing the infant's back. A supervisor came in and scolded her telling her she wasn't doing it correctly. The supervisor yanked the child's blanket off.
This was from a teacher I knew who stopped working at another center. She got tired of the mean bossy supervisors constantly breathing down her neck for not being mean enough.
These places charge 250 a week too! Yet they pay the teachers minimum wage and penny pinch when it comes to supplies and alternate children between classrooms just to make room for other kids behind parents backs.
So you never know if the teacher is feeling overwhelmed by having to potty train, feed, punish an abusive kid, wipe runny noses, teach, write down everything on sheets, change diapers, recess, make sure kids are napping, listen to the scoldy mean supervisor etc... all of that for minimum wage just so corporate daycare can pinch pennies and make you think you are getting quality service because of how much you pay.
Then they will proceed to rip you off more if you aren't happy. You try to talk to corporate about it and they make you feel like it's all your fault when it was one of their higher up employees who was ripping you off and it just shows you where their priorities are.
Do not trust settings like this.
This sounds an awful lot like Kindercare, a coorporate daycare I applied for a job to a month ago but was recently turned down b/c the director said they weren't hiring for the whole year. When I found out I was turned down, I took this as discrimination against me since I have AS and do a lot of advocacy stuff for people on the spectrum.
I did reasearch into them not long ago and according to parents who use their (dis)services, they are fuming and taking their kids out of Kindercare centers left and right b/c this daycare has been at the forefront of many legal battles involving child neglect and abuse.
I went in to the Eugene location hoping this location would be different as far as treating people is concerned but now I think It's a coorporate thing and there's something in the Kindercare code of conduct that says Directors and Supervisors must act like ignorant stooges and Employees must also act like they don't have a soul.

I think it just depends on the daycare. When my daughter was 2.5 we lived in a very small town in BC and she went to the only daycare in town. The daycare director had over 20 yrs experiance. She was the first person to start using PECS with her, and it was very good for her socially.
Then we moved to provinces (to be closer to family and for work) and daycare was an absolute nightmare. Both daycare's in town refused to even put her on their waiting list. Then I tried the family day-home agency, they set me up with a 'trial' with a licenced dayhome provider. The provider, a mom wanting to stay home with her baby, so she has 4 little ones plus a couple older after school kids. Tried it for a week, then she told me she didn't think it was going to work out. Then we tried a couple baby-sitters that didn't work out.
I begged and pleaded to work from home. I have a room set up as my office, and I talked to the local respite agency and they set me up with a live-out nanny, someone who works out of my home. It's great, because I'm always home I can check in on her. She takes my daughter to and from pre-school and to the park and such, I know shes not being neglected or abused and that she's getting decent care.
I feel very guilty because I have to work and can't be with her as much as possible. Even though my child care situation is pretty ideal, my advice would be if there's any way to stay home with your child, I'd do it. If you can't stay home, thats life, but be prepared to have to try alot of options until you find someone who is the right fit, you can't settle for anything less. Good luck!
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Childcare was difficult for us, and I think that many parents of AS will discover that. My son wouldn't do group care, and he wouldn't do sitting by me as I worked. We bit the bullet and hired a private nanny. I had clients and commitments, only part-time thankfully, and if I was going to have to use childcare, I needed to do everything I could to make it a positive experience for my child.
Everyone in the family loved having a nanny
But I can't say I saw a lot of profit out of my work, after counting for income tax and childcare. Just one of things, in the end. I'm in a licensed profession and we had to factor that in, too; if I walked away, it would be forever, very little chance of going back.
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It depends on the daycare.
I went to one that was in a private home but the daycare lady put me upstairs in a crib in a hot room with no window open and no fans blowing and she gave me nothing to drink. I was sick for a week due to being over heated. My parents never took me back there.
I went to a daycare when I was three and four but I ended up with a teacher who was too lazy to deal with me. So she had no patience for me and was wishy washy and get mad at me when I wouldn't listen because I didn't understand what she was telling me. I misbehaved there and then I got kicked out. I also remember wanting to be in the big kid area because their toys were more fun and the stuff my age group did seemed boring.
But the other daycare I was in as a two year old and a three year old was okay. I played alone and we had story time and play ground time and toy time and of course nap time. But I remember having accidents there when I was first out of diapers because I hold it because I refused to use the big toilets. I was afraid of them and they didn't want me using the potty chair. I even remember soiling myself there.
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