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19 Jan 2009, 1:21 pm

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Only way to make education stronger in this country is to keep all choices open to parents: public school, homeschooling, and private schools. Problem is, the public school likes to be the only game in town. They do view homeschoolers as freaks and inadequate.


yeah, we're the crazy religious fanatic homeschooling family in our neighborhood. I don't mind because I know I'm doing what's best for my kids.



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19 Jan 2009, 1:43 pm

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Now I realize that this doesn't by any means conclude that homeschooling is bad, but rather this is just what I've observed. I've met many kids who were homeschooled, that I either met online, or transfered to a public school later on. Honestly, I can say that they were downright stupid (intellectually) compared to the rest of the children. Again, I'm not saying homeschooling is bad, that's just my observations.


I'm laughing so hard over this observation! You haven't lived long enough or met enough people then!!



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19 Jan 2009, 2:20 pm

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gramirez wrote:
Now I realize that this doesn't by any means conclude that homeschooling is bad, but rather this is just what I've observed. I've met many kids who were homeschooled, that I either met online, or transfered to a public school later on. Honestly, I can say that they were downright stupid (intellectually) compared to the rest of the children. Again, I'm not saying homeschooling is bad, that's just my observations.


I'm laughing so hard over this observation! You haven't lived long enough or met enough people then!!


I'm with you, Tortuga. In our area the homeschooled kids tend to excel well beyond the public and private school kids, and I'm saying that as a parent who does NOT homeschool, so it's no happy illusion I've created for myself.

So much, of course, has to do with the parents, and the reason for choosing homeschooling. Parents who choose homeschooling because they disagree with what is taught in the schools I do worry may be just choosing to pass along their own ignorance, but I haven't met any like that, just read about them. Parents here who homeschool do it either because they have a spectrum child with sensory issues, or because their child is so far ahead to start with, they know their child needs "more" than what a classroom with 30 kids can provide. Those situations really work for the child.


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19 Jan 2009, 4:33 pm

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gramirez wrote:
Now I realize that this doesn't by any means conclude that homeschooling is bad, but rather this is just what I've observed. I've met many kids who were homeschooled, that I either met online, or transfered to a public school later on. Honestly, I can say that they were downright stupid (intellectually) compared to the rest of the children. Again, I'm not saying homeschooling is bad, that's just my observations.


I'm laughing so hard over this observation! You haven't lived long enough or met enough people then!!

Or, public schools really suck in your area (their fantastic where I am). Obviously the curriculum of a very wealthy, highly-rated/awarded school district is bound to be far more advanced, than a school district of the opposite qualities. Think about it.

And another thing, never once did I say that my observations were definitive or official research, and you can't tell me that my personal observations are false. :roll:
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So much, of course, has to do with the parents, and the reason for choosing homeschooling. Parents who choose homeschooling because they disagree with what is taught in the schools I do worry may be just choosing to pass along their own ignorance, but I haven't met any like that, just read about them.

I agree. Our old neighbors were very religious, and wanted to isolate their children from any non-christian experiences(not the right word) that could/would come up in a public school setting.


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20 Jan 2009, 6:16 am

gramirez wrote:
Tortuga wrote:
gramirez wrote:
Now I realize that this doesn't by any means conclude that homeschooling is bad, but rather this is just what I've observed. I've met many kids who were homeschooled, that I either met online, or transfered to a public school later on. Honestly, I can say that they were downright stupid (intellectually) compared to the rest of the children. Again, I'm not saying homeschooling is bad, that's just my observations.


I'm laughing so hard over this observation! You haven't lived long enough or met enough people then!!

Or, public schools really suck in your area (their fantastic where I am). Obviously the curriculum of a very wealthy, highly-rated/awarded school district is bound to be far more advanced, than a school district of the opposite qualities. Think about it.

And another thing, never once did I say that my observations were definitive or official research, and you can't tell me that my personal observations are false. :roll:
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So much, of course, has to do with the parents, and the reason for choosing homeschooling. Parents who choose homeschooling because they disagree with what is taught in the schools I do worry may be just choosing to pass along their own ignorance, but I haven't met any like that, just read about them.

I agree. Our old neighbors were very religious, and wanted to isolate their children from any non-christian experiences(not the right word) that could/would come up in a public school setting.


my eldest daughter has learning disabilities so if you talked to her you might well find her "downright stupid (intellectually)". But I think home schooling is even more important for her , as she can learn in a safe environment free of criticism or put downs and learn in a way that fits her. I think people should be careful of intelectual snobery and try to be more equal. Inteligence does not make someone a better person and "stupid" people have just as much right for happiness as anyone else.



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20 Jan 2009, 4:23 pm

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But I think home schooling is even more important for her , as she can learn in a safe environment free of criticism or put downs and learn in a way that fits her.

I totally agree. That's probably the biggest drawback of a public school.
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I think people should be careful of intelectual snobery and try to be more equal. Inteligence does not make someone a better person and "stupid" people have just as much right for happiness as anyone else.

Who says their not happy?


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20 Jan 2009, 9:42 pm

We're a homeschooling family over here too :) You can read about our adventures in my blog (the link is in my sig). I just recently pulled him from public school (our school/admin was incredible, so was the board team) but it doesn't matter where you put him, just being with the 6 boys in his classroom was by far too overstimulating. So although the school rocked, the program was outstanding and they bend to fit the child, not vice versa, it wasn't the right fit for HIM. At home, he's thriving. We pack so much into our day without even trying because it's all happens naturally. He has no idea how much he's learning because he's enjoying it to much. When you take away the overstimulation and the pressure and the stress it frees up his mind to absorb the important stuff. He's not spending all his energy just trying to get through the day. It's really refreshing.

I'm not so new to homeschooling myself. My Mum homeschooled my sister from the age of 11 until she went to Uni. She's in Grad school now.