HELP! @ school: comments from boys to 8yo ASC daughter

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03 Jul 2013, 11:06 am

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One aspect that hasn't been discussed here which was a problem that we had is your daughter's ability to ask for help and the response she is likely to get from an adult if she does ask. Many kids on the spectrum just don't remember to consider that one solution to a problem may be to ask an adult for help. My son was being bullied by two NT girls who were in the same grade as he was. It was happening right out in the open on the playground in front of the adults who were supposed to be supervising the children. The problem, other than the fact that these two little girls are nasty little brats, is that DS did not know the playground duties so was reluctant to approach them and ask for help. In addition, if he did ask for help, the initial response was for the adult to brush him off. The second part is what really pissed me off (again besides the fact that these two little girls were getting away with torturing my son)! Adults in this situation too often just blow-off kids' concerns. I guess they think the kids are just being tattle-tales. While that may be true some of the time, it sets a bad precedent whereby kids don't think that telling an adult is going to get them any help even when they REALLY need an adult's help solving a problem. So, we did 2 things. Every recess for a few weeks, DS's aide made sure he was introduced to the adults supervising the playground so he would know their names and those adults were instructed that if he came to them with a problem, that they would help him and not just blow him off. Getting him to ask for help is a challenge we still struggle with in various arenas but it is getting better.


Bombaloo you are so right. My daughter has a statement of SEN, and it's a legal document that says what support the school has to provide, part of which is socialising help. After she had only been there a few days she told me she was often lonely, and she said one day she had gone to the classroom assistant who was on duty in the playground and told her she had no-one to play with and she just said to her "go and ask someone"! She said she asked a few times periodically and was given the same response each time! Legally they are supposed to support her. She is very much the type of autistic who can approach other children but doesn't know what to do when rebuffed and wouldn't know if she had outstayed her welcome. When I pointed out this incident to them in her message book, they said they didn't have the staffing to be with her the whole time! It wasn't what I'd asked them, I had asked them to assist introducing her to a group of peers and once she was welcomed into the group to leave her to it. Lovely how they twist things and try to make you look like you are asking for unreasonable things, and I am a very specific person when I communicate with them too, I don't say woolly things.


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03 Jul 2013, 4:30 pm

@cubedemon, "It takes a whole village to raise a child". Society & community in the UK was effectively demolished in the 80's when money became more important than people, and selfish individualism became, it seems, a good thing. Add to that the attitude of entitlement and self-righteousness pervading and pumped into the national psyche and what we have is an amoral sinkhole where it seems some people expect to be praised simply for breeding successfully, but I digress...

Like I said previously, we are wrapped up in either surviving or aggrandising our own lives according to the current popular moral compass, and our inattention sets an example that our kids learn from without our realising it. Kids are amoral by nature, until they are brought to an understanding of right & wrong, but example is a more powerful teacher than argument, I feel.

Gods, I'm a cheery soul tonight :oops: I'm meant to be agreeing with you, not delivering a bl**dy lecture! Lol. Sorry about that :roll:


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03 Jul 2013, 4:41 pm

Don't worry torque, we all have those moments. If they had a Mrs Angry title I'm sure I'd pass the test on many occasions! :wink:

But you are right. Society depresses me deeply when I look at what type of people are the majority. And I don't even mean NTs on this occasion. The chav underclass mentality is all-pervading and this is probably who they were referring to when they said humans are becoming less intelligent. Once when I was about to be homeless, I rang the council and they asked me if I was pregnant - it would appear that this was one of the rules, no wonder they are all having sprogs to get housed. It's worse than just all out for what they can get, it's all out to see how much crime and lawlessness they can get away with and make money off of. Oh get me down off my soap box...


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03 Jul 2013, 5:20 pm

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Don't worry torque, we all have those moments. If they had a Mrs Angry title I'm sure I'd pass the test on many occasions! :wink:

But you are right. Society depresses me deeply when I look at what type of people are the majority. And I don't even mean NTs on this occasion. The chav underclass mentality is all-pervading and this is probably who they were referring to when they said humans are becoming less intelligent. Once when I was about to be homeless, I rang the council and they asked me if I was pregnant - it would appear that this was one of the rules, no wonder they are all having sprogs to get housed. It's worse than just all out for what they can get, it's all out to see how much crime and lawlessness they can get away with and make money off of. Oh get me down off my soap box...


Will you both read what I wrote?

http://whyifailedinamerica.wordpress.co ... d-society/
http://whyifailedinamerica.wordpress.com/

I think Dr. Berman explains a lot at least about our country, the USA.
http://morrisberman.blogspot.com/



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03 Jul 2013, 6:10 pm

Cube, have duly read, and PM'd you.

Whirls (?) I now have to stifle the urge to call you "Spinny", lol. "torque" has to be the coolest contraction of any name I have used anywhere, I may (from sheer vanity and self aggrandising smugness) have to sign my posts with it henceforth! It's also so hideously apt, it gives me chills.

"torque"

(f**k, yeah, that feels soo cool) :D


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04 Jul 2013, 5:22 am

Cube, I'm going to read your links now, as I've only just found your post. I think the UK is an only-very-slightly-watered-down-in-some-ways mini America anyway, so most of what you comment on about the USA is likely to apply to us here too. It's embarrassing that some Prime Ministers here have seemed like Presidential lap-dogs, unable to think for themselves and we are tied to the US in many ways (all your chains have invaded us for starters :lol: ).

Torque, arrghh, not "Spinny" whatever you do, that's reminiscent of some withered old spinster or something. I usually shorten it to WM (nicely enigmatic huh!) I thought torque was the first part of a two-part username? (I did wonder what the "mada" meant but thought maybe it had some Spanish influence (I must be thinking of the Armada...I crack myself up at times :lol: ). Good luck for today BTW.


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04 Jul 2013, 5:32 am

"Whirls" it is then, lol. WM is too dull and professional, imo.

Torquemada was a big cheese in the Spanish Inquisition (NOOOOOO-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!) but I've actually taken it from 2000AD comic from my youth, as my cat already has the cooler name from that particular strip, and it's the name of the uber-cool and nasty space-villain. I just need a Motorcycle I can call Thoth (with a basket on it for Nems) and my little adolescent sci-fi fantasy world would be complete *sigh*



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04 Jul 2013, 7:07 am

I thought you meant cheese as in the food cheese. I took quite a few moments and reading your message twice before I realised what you meant! :oops:

Well there goes my Aspie moment for the day.


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04 Jul 2013, 7:10 am

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05 Jul 2013, 5:50 am

About the problems with the skirts and dresses that was mentioned in the beginning. I have the same problem too, I am used to e very mobile, so when waring dresses or skirts I simply dont think about avoiding stuff, when people can see below that.

If I may offer you my solution. :)

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