My 5 yr old is driving me nuts!
02 Nov 2016, 6:37 pm
pddtwinmom wrote:
Unicorns - you're on the parenting side of the forum, and that's my child that you're talking about. He's wonderful and I love him very much. Please do not insult him again. I'm going to assume that you don't know how pissed off a mother can get, so I'll stop here. On the other hand, if you're trolling, please move on.
I wasn't trolling, I was being perfectly serious.
I apologize for the bluntless of my previous reply, but what I said wasn't intended as an insult, more as a warning - it seems to me that you have serious trouble on your hands.
Your comments came across to me as far more than a mother getting pissed off about everyday annoyances with her kid.
You wrote: "... he's also stubborn, defiant, and will push every rule given and laugh about it."
You wrote: "If I say don't hit your brother again, he'll look me in the eye and reach over and whack him. It's like we're in a power struggle and he's daring me to call him on his bluff."
You also wrote: "I hate that I'm thinking this way about my pre-school kid."
I'm not saying I'm right, but I certainly think you should look into things other than autism.
I think there are other things at play, not just autism. I could be wrong, but that's how it comes across to me.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
You also wrote: ".. he really is a nice, fun child. Until he doesn't get his way."
You wrote: "I also try to reason with him, to which he most often responds with a full-throated scream in my face, complete with bulging neck veins."
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02 Nov 2016, 6:49 pm
I_Heart_Unicorns wrote:
pddtwinmom wrote:
Unicorns - you're on the parenting side of the forum, and that's my child that you're talking about. He's wonderful and I love him very much. Please do not insult him again. I'm going to assume that you don't know how pissed off a mother can get, so I'll stop here. On the other hand, if you're trolling, please move on.
I wasn't trolling, I was being perfectly serious.
I apologize for the bluntless of my previous reply, but what I said wasn't intended as an insult, more as a warning - it seems to me that you have serious trouble on your hands.
Your comments came across to me as far more than a mother getting pissed off about everyday annoyances with her kid.
You wrote: "... he's also stubborn, defiant, and will push every rule given and laugh about it."
You wrote: "If I say don't hit your brother again, he'll look me in the eye and reach over and whack him. It's like we're in a power struggle and he's daring me to call him on his bluff."
You also wrote: "I hate that I'm thinking this way about my pre-school kid."
I'm not saying I'm right, but I certainly think you should look into things other than autism.
I think there are other things at play, not just autism. I could be wrong, but that's how it comes across to me.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
You also wrote: ".. he really is a nice, fun child. Until he doesn't get his way."
You wrote: "I also try to reason with him, to which he most often responds with a full-throated scream in my face, complete with bulging neck veins."
Unicorns - Have you spent a lot of time around 4 year olds? I don't think you're aware of how normal all of your "red flags" are at this age. Yes, it sounds like its more intense than normal, but that's why the kid has an ASD diagnosis.
4 year olds are... well, they are wonderful and loving, and they are also little sociopaths. Its just their developmental stage. They don't have a lot of ability to regulate their own emotions and they only have empathy for anyone when it suits them. They don't have experience with being socially acceptable. 99.9% of them grow out of it. A few need some assistance to do so. But really, you shouldn't pathologize childhood. They literally don't know any better yet. And we expect a certain amount of behavior from this age that would get older people labled "crazy."
02 Nov 2016, 7:14 pm
somanyspoons wrote:
I_Heart_Unicorns wrote:
pddtwinmom wrote:
Unicorns - you're on the parenting side of the forum, and that's my child that you're talking about. He's wonderful and I love him very much. Please do not insult him again. I'm going to assume that you don't know how pissed off a mother can get, so I'll stop here. On the other hand, if you're trolling, please move on.
I wasn't trolling, I was being perfectly serious.
I apologize for the bluntless of my previous reply, but what I said wasn't intended as an insult, more as a warning - it seems to me that you have serious trouble on your hands.
Your comments came across to me as far more than a mother getting pissed off about everyday annoyances with her kid.
You wrote: "... he's also stubborn, defiant, and will push every rule given and laugh about it."
You wrote: "If I say don't hit your brother again, he'll look me in the eye and reach over and whack him. It's like we're in a power struggle and he's daring me to call him on his bluff."
You also wrote: "I hate that I'm thinking this way about my pre-school kid."
I'm not saying I'm right, but I certainly think you should look into things other than autism.
I think there are other things at play, not just autism. I could be wrong, but that's how it comes across to me.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
You also wrote: ".. he really is a nice, fun child. Until he doesn't get his way."
You wrote: "I also try to reason with him, to which he most often responds with a full-throated scream in my face, complete with bulging neck veins."
Unicorns - Have you spent a lot of time around 4 year olds? I don't think you're aware of how normal all of your "red flags" are at this age. Yes, it sounds like its more intense than normal, but that's why the kid has an ASD diagnosis.
4 year olds are... well, they are wonderful and loving, and they are also little sociopaths. Its just their developmental stage. They don't have a lot of ability to regulate their own emotions and they only have empathy for anyone when it suits them. They don't have experience with being socially acceptable. 99.9% of them grow out of it. A few need some assistance to do so. But really, you shouldn't pathologize childhood. They literally don't know any better yet. And we expect a certain amount of behavior from this age that would get older people labled "crazy."
Well, like I said I hope I'm wrong.
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02 Nov 2016, 9:46 pm
somanyspoons wrote:
I_Heart_Unicorns wrote:
pddtwinmom wrote:
Unicorns - you're on the parenting side of the forum, and that's my child that you're talking about. He's wonderful and I love him very much. Please do not insult him again. I'm going to assume that you don't know how pissed off a mother can get, so I'll stop here. On the other hand, if you're trolling, please move on.
I wasn't trolling, I was being perfectly serious.
I apologize for the bluntless of my previous reply, but what I said wasn't intended as an insult, more as a warning - it seems to me that you have serious trouble on your hands.
Your comments came across to me as far more than a mother getting pissed off about everyday annoyances with her kid.
You wrote: "... he's also stubborn, defiant, and will push every rule given and laugh about it."
You wrote: "If I say don't hit your brother again, he'll look me in the eye and reach over and whack him. It's like we're in a power struggle and he's daring me to call him on his bluff."
You also wrote: "I hate that I'm thinking this way about my pre-school kid."
I'm not saying I'm right, but I certainly think you should look into things other than autism.
I think there are other things at play, not just autism. I could be wrong, but that's how it comes across to me.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong.
You also wrote: ".. he really is a nice, fun child. Until he doesn't get his way."
You wrote: "I also try to reason with him, to which he most often responds with a full-throated scream in my face, complete with bulging neck veins."
Unicorns - Have you spent a lot of time around 4 year olds? I don't think you're aware of how normal all of your "red flags" are at this age. Yes, it sounds like its more intense than normal, but that's why the kid has an ASD diagnosis.
4 year olds are... well, they are wonderful and loving, and they are also little sociopaths. Its just their developmental stage. They don't have a lot of ability to regulate their own emotions and they only have empathy for anyone when it suits them. They don't have experience with being socially acceptable. 99.9% of them grow out of it. A few need some assistance to do so. But really, you shouldn't pathologize childhood. They literally don't know any better yet. And we expect a certain amount of behavior from this age that would get older people labled "crazy."
You wrote: "4 year olds are... well, they are wonderful and loving, and they are also little sociopaths."
Um, OK.
You also wrote: "99.9% of them grow out of it."
And some don't, that's my whole point.
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09 Nov 2016, 10:00 am
I_Heart_Unicorns wrote:
ASDMommyASDKid wrote:
Why the heck would you tell the OP to worry that her kid is one of the .1%? She did not ask any question relating to that at all - and of course it is upsetting to be told for no good reason to be looking that your kid could be a sociopath.
I'm not saying that the OP's kid is definitely one of the 0.1%, but that it's a possibility.
And like I said, I hope I'm wrong. Why? Because sociopathy/psycopathy (AIUI) isn't curable.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I'd take no pleasure in being right.
But if a mother comes here posting a message knowing that something is seriously wrong with her kid, what am I meant to do? Reassure her & say "It's fine, he'll grow out of it" or "It's just a phase", when I'm not convinced that's the case?
Does she want to hear reassuring lies or (what may be) the truth?
You could refrain from commenting on the post if you don't know anything about kids -- rather than listing the scariest possibility you can think of.
09 Nov 2016, 12:25 pm
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Does she want to hear reassuring lies or (what may be) the truth?
Unless you're the doctor she's seeing with her son you have no basis at all whatsoever to be making assumptions about what her child does or doesn't have. You could've just posted the links and offered for her to take a look at them without all the fear mongering.
I'm an NT and when I was his age I made OP's kid look like Jesus Christ himself. Most young children are sort of insane, no matter what kind of condition they may have.
