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whould you spank a special need child?
no what the point they dont understand anything 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
no i dont think its fair 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
yes what the hell not ever bad thing my child do is because of his SN 21%  21%  [ 9 ]
i dont hit kids 62%  62%  [ 26 ]
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02 Feb 2010, 5:41 pm

No - I addressed your comments, not you. When you insult and attack others through insinuation, I wonder why it is a suprise that they take the time to respond to such things. You've become hostile with me in multiple threads without provocation, and where I am continuing to address the situation you've now made this personal by resorting to name-calling. Enough, Meadow.


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02 Feb 2010, 5:48 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
No - I addressed your comments, not you. When you insult and attack others through insinuation, I wonder why it is a suprise that they take the time to respond to such things. You've become hostile with me in multiple threads without provocation, and where I am continuing to address the situation you've now made this personal by resorting to name-calling. Enough, Meadow.


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You are completely off-base by accusing me of insulting and attacking someone. My opinion was not insulting in the least nor was it an attack. That's ludicrous. You are attacking me and my right to speak in regard to my opinion on the matter. You have plenty of right to disagree but getting behind me with your insult and in my face with an attacking maneuver is going too far. Get a grip!



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02 Feb 2010, 7:27 pm

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no what the point they dont understand anything
no i dont think its fair
yes what the hell not ever bad thing my child do is because of his SN
i dont hit kids


Wow, hadn't taken the time to read all the options for the poll thoroughly... well, the opinions of the OP are much clearer now, seeing as the poll was constructed in a "Have you stopped beating your wife?" sort of manner.


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02 Feb 2010, 9:04 pm

utherdoul wrote:
MotherKnowsBest wrote:
For anyone who still thinks it is acceptable to smack a child:

The United Nations convention on the rights of the child, to which every country in the world has signed up, except Somalia and the United States, describe spanking a child as:

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a serious violation of the dignity of the child


http://www.unhchr.ch/tbs/doc.nsf/0/2f27 ... 245381.pdf


The United Nations says and "considers" lots of things but about 99.9% is garbage and this falls firmly into that category. A child runs out into the road you spank him and he doesn't do it again. Most of the "positive" discipline crap you see taking away toys, explaining, or time outs are the reason we have these spoiled and insane children running around my store damaging merchandise while the bovine mother ignores them or says "no please don't do that" whilst doing nothing else. Now don't misunderstand me spanking is a last resort punishment and it has to doled out very carefully. A parent should NEVER spank in anger and it should hurt the parent as much as the child and shouldn't be drawn out. I got spankings as a child and they (in retrospect) helped to teach me boundaries to keep from putting myself in danger far more effectively than being put in timeout did.


I have already said that good discipline isn't about spanking or not; it is about clarity and consistency. I have had so many people who advocate spanking confide in me in public as if I'm in on their secret because, low and behold, my kids (who have never been spanked) are usually absolutely perfect in public, so obviously to the people who believe all bad behavior runs back to positive parenting, I must spank. But life experience has taught me this: when it comes to good parenting, spanking (in moderation) or not has absolutely nothing to do with it.

I do NOT want this to be fought here. It is NEVER resolved, anywhere. I've seen it far too often; on this issue, people believe what they believe and all the debate in the world is NOT going to change that.

We need to respect that reasonable parents can actually believe different things and leave it at that.

And, yes, the language in the original poll was flawed to the point where I didn't even want to answer. It seems like that poster came in here with an agenda, and ran.

I am choosing to lock this thread now, because I don't think further discussion is productive. Anyone who disagrees with my decision can pm me.


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