Blurting out in class - again

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Just when I think we have solved a problem it raises its head again
How can I stop my 12 y/o from shouting out inappropriate comments in class?
Suggestions welcomed

What kind of comments?

Do the other kids laugh? In that case, leave him to it! A spot of detention's worth some social cred

Anti school type comments
"I hate maths" "I'm not doing this" ........
Other kids don't laugh, but get distracted and embarrassed
We had managed to stop it through lots of positive reinforcement, but it seems to be reoccurring and we're not sure why

Ah-... um. I dunno. Can you persuade him to channel it on paper instead?

You've probably tried something this already, but you could also point out that other kids like maths and it's not fair on them to distract them

(to demonstrate what it feels like, next time he's watching his favourite cartoon or doing something he likes, get everyone in the family to go "I hate X/Y/Z" constantly" and bug the hell out of him for a while). Sometimes it takes being reminded of what it's like on the other side.

Did anyone ask him why he hates math? or Why arent you doing this?

does he understand the question? Or is he bored with it? or he has to sit there?

getting everyone in the family to yell "I hate xyz" WHAT ? great understanding way ? or Everyone ganging up on him,,,again ! !!

someone needs to be reminded of what it like on the other side....Against him..

embarassed? the classmates are embarassed ?

ask why?

There's no need to be so defensive. The OP hasn't given any more information about her son, so a lot of what you just wrote is supposition.

Not to discount your advice about asking why he does it; it's good, but the OP has already said that they've been through it all before and positive reinforcement didn't work. I'm sure they've asked before why he doesn't like math, but at the end of the day, it's irrelevant. Lots of kids hate maths and other subjects, it's normal. The issue is him disrupting the class.

If he disrupts the class and cannot grasp his classmates reactions, that will leave him more open to bullying or ostracisation so it is important that he learns not to, regardless of his reasons.

My idea wasn't to 'gang up' on him; it was to briefly show what it's like to be interupted when you're doing something you like. I suggested it as a last resort because the OP has already tried other methods. If a better one comes up, by all means that's the route to take.

just seems to me, its like asking the blind to see

its a disability, not normal...

example: I can see the flickering of lights, like a strobe, a humming noise can drone in my head, a flag waving outside that snaps occasionally

can you think straight with an air horn going off next to your head while everything is flashing around you

positive reinforcement is the same as trying to fixi us by giving prizes or treats

point is its not irrelevant and there are reasons

some have a greater understanding of language and words
some with logic and math skills

"a friend of mine
likes this line"

"the reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." shaw

I agree, aspergers can be a disability but I don't think it's akin to blindness. More like varying degrees of short-sightedness. Some of us will never see clearly, but we owe it to kids to at least try to teach them to recognise the shapes and help them cope in the world that we have no choice but to live in. To sit by and accept that a child will never learn and 'blind' is to do them a disservice. IMO anyway



Love this quote. But unfortunately, the unreasonable man will have to wait until he finishes school to change the world.. c'est la vie...

never said I was talking about the child being blind
shortsightedness is the disservice ,,,some of us will never see clearly,...we owe it to our kids to teach them this world ...............is not mine. did you look at the name of this website
Wrong planet,,
some see a square, I see a box

quote? But man, he will have to wait until change to school finishes the unreasonable world unfortunately,c'est la vie...

I agree with gadge. I suggest actually talking to him and finding out why hates math and what he is feeling so frustrated about. I hate maths too. Someone yelling things out to me to "show me" how annoying I am when I'm frustrated and struggling would only serve to make me feel like I'm two inches tall and a complete moron.

I would also compare ASD to a blindness of sorts and one of the main issues I'm fighting for is for the recognition that we deserve equal accommodation and understanding, including but not limited to the creation of a language that we can understand. Continuing to suggest we normalise and "behave like everyone else" is quite like asking a blind person to listen to books and never read them for themselves. If you want to communicate with us it's important to learn our language. We're doing the best we can to be bilingual.

Hmm, disagree with you there. But I don't want to derail this thread any further. You're entitled to your beliefs, but I feel it may be an upward struggle getting the recognition you desire.

Gadge, apologies but I find your way of writing quite difficult to read. Sentences and quote boxes go a long way


I never said anything about yelling. Talking when someone is trying to concentrate is enough. And no, he probably wouldn't enjoy it, but that's kind of the point. I really cannot imagine that the OP would be the type to go overboard and mentally scar the child, but Im not going to mention this any further; it's purely one suggestion and I don't take any offence if it is not taken.

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Care to elaborate Lene?

About what?

About this.


Hmm, disagree with you there. But I don't want to derail this thread any further. You're entitled to your beliefs, but I feel it may be an upward struggle getting the recognition you desire.


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I'm interested in your perspective and why you disagree. I don't think it's particularly off topic or derailing the thread to discuss how to meet this child's needs and the parent's/school's needs at the same time. My perspective is that the parent/school is viewing this as "something the child can help doing" and is therefore ticked off at the child for blurting out in class. The child seems frustrated and is blurting out in class as a consequence. The parent/school is now also frustrated and taking the frustration out on the child, expecting them to not blurt out in class. There are underlying issues on both sides which seems to be due to a lack of understanding from all parties concerned.

My perspective, based on personal experience extrapolated via limited information, is that the child hasn't received what he needs to keep himself from blurting out in class in the first place. I feel that if we could cross the NT/AS language barriers that seem to be obviously present here everyone could get their needs met.

No. Start your own thread.

I'm responding to the topic as a parent and a person on the spectrum. I plan to continue doing that and respect that you don't wish to discuss your views or perceptions or explain why you disagree. Cheers.