"Cutting Edge Therapies for Autism"

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21 Jun 2011, 10:01 am

We've never been really interested in the "curing" of our kids autism, and as a result I don't know much about the various methods espoused for doing so. The library where I work just got a book, though -- Cutting Edge Therapies for Autism, 2010-2011 -- and it is, frankly, making me a bit queasy.

Most of it seems pretty inoffensive. Aquatic Therapy, Art Therapy, Dance Therapy. And then there's the questionable stuff, like Dietary Intervention, and Homeopathy. However, the one thing that I know of being fairly risky, chelation, gets several pages with no real discussion of the dangers. And it does cite the disredited vaccines/austism link, which sets off several warning bells.

I'd like to raise my concerns with the selectors, and perhaps get the book reconsidered, but I want to do so so with some backing. Can anyone point me to some good information about the risks of chelation therapy? And if you run across any reviews of this particular book (other than the Amazon ones) that would be helpful as well. I'm doing some searching myself, but I've not had much luck yet.



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21 Jun 2011, 11:29 am

The one thing that helped me the most was getting a pet lizard. She's helped my social skills tremendiously. Before I got her I would just ignore people like they didn't exhist but after I got my lizard and started taking her places with me, people would ask questions and I felt compeled to answer them. People see dogs every day and I've had dogs my whole life and they didn't help my social skills with other people any. They were my playmates and friends when people didn't fill those voids but they didn't really help my social skills any. If I took a dog out with me, no one would say anything becuase people are so used to seeing dogs. People rarely see lizards so I always get questions.



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21 Jun 2011, 1:11 pm

first things first: there is NO cure for autism...
although the dancing *might* help relieve some stress, it is in no way a cure.
the only thing i know of that helps lowering the impace of autism is acting lessons; if your child is medium to high functioning and at least tries to socialise. aside from that; try finding a semi-group hobby that he/she can enjoy.



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21 Jun 2011, 1:27 pm

izzeme wrote:
first things first: there is NO cure for autism...
although the dancing *might* help relieve some stress, it is in no way a cure.
the only thing i know of that helps lowering the impace of autism is acting lessons; if your child is medium to high functioning and at least tries to socialise. aside from that; try finding a semi-group hobby that he/she can enjoy.


Let me make it clear: I'm not endorsing this book. I want to have this have it withdrawn, and removed from the library system. In order to do that, I need to have something that I can point to and say "This is erroneous, and/or dangerous."

The fact that it cites the vaccine/autism link, without ANY mention of these studies having been discredited, should be enough. But I'd also like to be able to point out the dangers of chelation, and have something that I can use to back this information up.



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21 Jun 2011, 5:42 pm

this is a press release from the FDA that should make it clear that chelation is not an approved treatment for autism:
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/ ... 229320.htm

and this link shows the cdc report on chelation fatal events which includes an autistic child's death:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5508a3.htm

maybe those will help you.


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22 Jun 2011, 10:05 pm

You could always "borrow" the book and then "forget" to return it... :twisted:



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23 Jun 2011, 3:28 am

Wreck-Gar wrote:
You could always "borrow" the book and then "forget" to return it... :twisted:


I like this idea....I would do it, but then again they may go out and get another one. I am so tired of the "cure" nuts that it can make me violently angry....I walk around ranting and raving, you can ask my husband. Not to offend anyone but are all these people Scientologists? They certainly seem to have the same ideas....the evil "big Pharm" out to get us all!
Anyway, I think its may be very hard to get this book removed, free speech you know? However I would try and if all else fails, try the above idea. You can even say it got lost and pay for it if you want to keep going to your library....then you can burn the sucker :twisted: !



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23 Jun 2011, 8:42 am

Wreck-Gar wrote:
You could always "borrow" the book and then "forget" to return it... :twisted:


That's not something that I would ever do; I'm a librarian, and something like that would make me no different from the people who make books *they* disapprove of, like Judy Blume books, disappear.

With the aid of the links posted, I asked for the book to be reconsidered, and this --as I was hoping --is being done. I think that the vaccine/autism link is cited actually has more weight that the chelation stuff, which on retrospect comes as no surprise at all. There's no patience at all for outdated information, which is why we tend to discard most thing medically related a few years after publication.

But thank you all for your help!



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23 Jun 2011, 9:11 am

Well that would not be good to take the book then, all things considered. Also did not think about people who take books because they deem them wrong or bad. I happen to love Judy Blume and probably would not have gotten through puberty without "Are You There God, Its Me Margaret".



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23 Jun 2011, 9:55 pm

Rolzup wrote:
Wreck-Gar wrote:
You could always "borrow" the book and then "forget" to return it... :twisted:


That's not something that I would ever do; I'm a librarian, and something like that would make me no different from the people who make books *they* disapprove of, like Judy Blume books, disappear.


I know, I was just kidding...Just seems to me that info on bogus "cures" for condition (and not just autism!) seems to outnumber info on scientifically proven treatmetns.



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24 Jun 2011, 12:36 am

Rolzup wrote:
Wreck-Gar wrote:
You could always "borrow" the book and then "forget" to return it... :twisted:


That's not something that I would ever do; I'm a librarian, and something like that would make me no different from the people who make books *they* disapprove of, like Judy Blume books, disappear.

With the aid of the links posted, I asked for the book to be reconsidered, and this --as I was hoping --is being done. I think that the vaccine/autism link is cited actually has more weight that the chelation stuff, which on retrospect comes as no surprise at all. There's no patience at all for outdated information, which is why we tend to discard most thing medically related a few years after publication.


Yes, no censorship please! Asking for the book to be reconsidered seems reasonable.

I had this book from our library and was very put off by one section in which the writer said that anyone who... I can't remember if it was interacted with others of showed affection, but anyone who did it was <i>not</i> autistic and was misdiagnosed. Pissed me right off.

If you find significant information about the book is wrong, I'll ask my library to reconsider it as well.


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24 Jun 2011, 12:39 am

MagicMeerkat wrote:
The one thing that helped me the most was getting a pet lizard. She's helped my social skills tremendiously. Before I got her I would just ignore people like they didn't exhist but after I got my lizard and started taking her places with me, people would ask questions and I felt compeled to answer them. People see dogs every day and I've had dogs my whole life and they didn't help my social skills with other people any. They were my playmates and friends when people didn't fill those voids but they didn't really help my social skills any. If I took a dog out with me, no one would say anything becuase people are so used to seeing dogs. People rarely see lizards so I always get questions.


I actually know someone who does really well with a dog as a social surrogate. She has no diagnosis that I know of, but many spectrum traits. I've been wondering for awhile if a dog would help my son interact, but haven't felt up to taking on the responsibility. Perhaps we should consider a lizard.


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24 Jun 2011, 12:49 am

Of course I am against censorship of any kind but when it comes to these "alternative therapies," it seems a lot of desperate/uneducated parents just throw their critical thinking skills out the window. Sorry if I seem ranty about this but it's really a big issue for me. At our local library we found a book that talked about how you can "cure" autism using reiki. Yeah. Ok. :evil:

And it seems like most autism message boards (besides this one!) are populated by parents who are all gung-ho for these snake oil treatments.

I am thinking about returning to the US soon with my family (we are in Japan now) and I was recommended to join a Yahoo group for parents of autistic kids in the state we will likely to be relocating to. I joined and what did I find? The recent topics were where to find GFCF pizza and a petition to enact a new law to get kids into schools without vaccination if you don't have a religious exemption. :evil: :evil:

My wife and I call those people "The DAN dummies." :twisted:

I am seriously NOT looking forward to having to deal with these people once we are back in the States.



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25 Jun 2011, 8:55 pm

Hi Rolzup!

I actually have the book you're talking about, but I think I have an earlier version. I'll go check. I understand how it can make some feel a bit uneasy, but it's not meant to promote a "cure," for autism as it is to help children manage their disabling symptoms. And, Aquatic Therapy is an excellent therapy for those with autism because many of our kids have poor, gross motor skills and body control. Aquatic sports really help to develop the muscles. If you don't believe me, you should check out some of the therapies the OTs and PTs do with these kids and they will put them in aquatic tanks or swimming pulls and give them a workout.

Also, dance therapy has been used for years and years to help kids with disabilities of all sorts. It helps them with physical limitations as well as listening and body-movement/control skills. Things that most of us take for granted. Our local autism support group writes grants each year and gets funding so that they can provide Music and Dance Therapy to its members.

So, I just ask that people have an open mind about these things. They're not meant to be a cure as much as ways to help our children gain control over the symptoms that cause them to be disabled. And, not everything is going to work for every child. So, it's good that we have some options and choices.

Nothing's going to be a panacea, but I support parents being able to look into therapies that will help their kids develop.

Thanks for listening.


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25 Jun 2011, 11:22 pm

The OP actually stated that Aquatic Therpay and Dance therapy are not what is objectionable in the book in question. What is extremely questionable is continuing to feed people's fear of vacinations and promoting risky treatments like chelation. There has not been a single study published that supports any benefits to autistic kids from chelation. I fully recognise that people persue therapies that have not been the subject of extensive well designed double blind studies based on anecdotal evidence in the hopes that their kids will benefit. Things like occupational therapy aren't proven beyond a shadow of a doubt but the worst thing that could happen with OT is that you spend money on something that isn't fruitful. The vaccine scare and chelation have resulted in needless deaths.



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26 Jun 2011, 3:12 am

willaful wrote:
MagicMeerkat wrote:
The one thing that helped me the most was getting a pet lizard. She's helped my social skills tremendiously. Before I got her I would just ignore people like they didn't exhist but after I got my lizard and started taking her places with me, people would ask questions and I felt compeled to answer them. People see dogs every day and I've had dogs my whole life and they didn't help my social skills with other people any. They were my playmates and friends when people didn't fill those voids but they didn't really help my social skills any. If I took a dog out with me, no one would say anything becuase people are so used to seeing dogs. People rarely see lizards so I always get questions.


I actually know someone who does really well with a dog as a social surrogate. She has no diagnosis that I know of, but many spectrum traits. I've been wondering for awhile if a dog would help my son interact, but haven't felt up to taking on the responsibility. Perhaps we should consider a lizard.


My lizard (a bearded dragon) is actualy my service animal. She is offical.

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