biomed autism "doctor" chemically castrating child

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30 May 2011, 2:20 pm

He also had an anti-vaccine stance. As soon as I read that, I knew he was a fraud.


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30 May 2011, 2:31 pm

The things these people are doing are just appalling to me! I mean as a parent I cant see allowing some of these things but then again these "snake oil" peddlers are really good at what they do. They prey on desperate parents and rob them blind while abusing and even murdering their children. Its just hard for me to understand how this sort of thing is allowed to go on.



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30 May 2011, 6:01 pm

Reading things like that really turns my stomach. It sounds more like he's trying out a little genocide of his own than anything else. Too bad people like that even get the ability to practice medicine.



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01 Jun 2011, 11:30 am

Bear in mind that the 1st head of the ama documents surgically removing a slaves jaw without anisthetic and comnented thatfrom his struggling it (ie the slave) almost seemed human. But of course couldnt be.



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09 Jun 2011, 11:37 pm

liloleme wrote:


Last time I checked, females with AS/ASD don't have testosterone so I'm not really sure how he expected this treatment to work.



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10 Jun 2011, 1:06 am

thats one of those things that he should had tried on himself first... some doctors just think that children are lab rabbits. Some doctor convinced my mom that I had a some brain disease and they needed a spinal tap done to confirm that...it was one of the worst experinces of my life. I had no right to tell them to stop. I screamed for 3 hours before my mom came on the floor and heard me screaming like I was really hurt. they refused to stop at her orders abut when they did...they left me laying on my sheet covered in blood. That was the end of my mom's curebee days. I was only 8 years old. It was not until later that they confirmed that I had autism.


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10 Jun 2011, 9:37 am

Can we please stop having bad stuff happening in my state.


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10 Jun 2011, 12:17 pm

jojobean wrote:
thats one of those things that he should had tried on himself first... some doctors just think that children are lab rabbits. Some doctor convinced my mom that I had a some brain disease and they needed a spinal tap done to confirm that...it was one of the worst experinces of my life. I had no right to tell them to stop. I screamed for 3 hours before my mom came on the floor and heard me screaming like I was really hurt. they refused to stop at her orders abut when they did...they left me laying on my sheet covered in blood. That was the end of my mom's curebee days. I was only 8 years old. It was not until later that they confirmed that I had autism.


This is why it has been our long standing decision that NOTHING is done to my daughter without a parent present. Children have no rights in the medical system. Staff is specifically trained to ignore a childs pleas. A parent should always be present to represent the child in any medical situation if at all possible. We have had a lot of stuff done with my daughter and a medical trauma when she was 3 and I hate to think of how much more she would have gone through had we not been there to stop it once we felt she was beyond what she could cope with. They acted like we were nuts but I dont give a hootie about that. LOL


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10 Jun 2011, 2:39 pm

liloleme wrote:
The things these people are doing are just appalling to me! I mean as a parent I cant see allowing some of these things but then again these "snake oil" peddlers are really good at what they do. They prey on desperate parents and rob them blind while abusing and even murdering their children. Its just hard for me to understand how this sort of thing is allowed to go on.

I have been here at the WP for a little over a year now and it seems to me that so many people here are really well educated about their own and/or their child's conditions that I had kinda started to think that most people must be similar. I recently started poking around a little more on Facebook and such and I have been flat out flabergasted at the total ignorance of the majority of people on some of those other sites. People who say their children have been diagnosed for years but they haven't read a single book about autism or Asperger's or sensory processing disorder or ADHD ... It seems they come to an online forum or go to some crack-pot doctor and seriously hope that someone is going to wave a magic wand and make all their troubles disappear. Not that I would ever have been prone to going the cure-a-bee route but I am glad for WP for all that I have learned here about the long, slow but fruitful process of helping my autistic son.



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12 Jun 2011, 2:58 pm

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It seems they come to an online forum or go to some crack-pot doctor and seriously hope that someone is going to wave a magic wand and make all their troubles disappear.


Welcome to America, home of the man that coined the phrase "Theres a sucker born every minute", the "Gimme Generation", Consumerism as a Lifestyle, and the breeding of the acceptance and desire for instant gratification XD. Work? Whats that when you can throw money at your problems, and theres a never ending stream of people, certified or not, willing to try to fix your problems for your money?

Point being, is it really that surprising that crap like this goes on considering what anyone can observe in american culture just by walking out your front door, or more quickly by turning on the tube?

Just had to add my 2 cents. Accurate knowledge is to be sought at every opportunity, the most important of which is that knowledge of the lack of it, should lead to patience until it is obtained..... The amount of willful ignorance I see in people every day never ceases to astound me.



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12 Jun 2011, 4:14 pm

I shouldnt be saying this but I overheard my daughters therapists discussing a little boy who they worked with (this was over a year ago when we were in the US). From what I overheard the parents had given up on the child, would not try any of the advice or ideas that were given to them and they refused to take him outside or allow the therapists to take him out. They said it was so sad to see him pressed up against the windows. They didnt want the neighbors to see him.....who are these people????
It was then that I decided that my older daughter, who I thought would be a great therapist because she was so good with her sister and brother, should never work with these kids because she would never be able to handle something like that.



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28 Jun 2011, 7:41 am

Where I live, there is a very strong alternative medicine community. I have read and heard about a lot of practices that cannot possibly work, some of them potentially harmful.

I think that a lot of people do not want to hear that their child's issues are genetic, neurological, or psychiactric. They also do not want to hear that they will have to pursue expensive speech therapy, occupational therapy, and ABA therapy. They also don't want to learn how to do these therapies themselves and work with the child on a daily basis in order for the child to reach maximum improvement.

I live in Texas, and the schools do very little in the way of therapy. Private therapy provided by insurance is not usually enough to do the job without the parent paying for additional therapy or providing additional home-based therapy.



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28 Jun 2011, 9:18 am

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Where I live, there is a very strong alternative medicine community. I have read and heard about a lot of practices that cannot possibly work, some of them potentially harmful.

I think that a lot of people do not want to hear that their child's issues are genetic, neurological, or psychiactric. They also do not want to hear that they will have to pursue expensive speech therapy, occupational therapy, and ABA therapy. They also don't want to learn how to do these therapies themselves and work with the child on a daily basis in order for the child to reach maximum improvement.

I live in Texas, and the schools do very little in the way of therapy. Private therapy provided by insurance is not usually enough to do the job without the parent paying for additional therapy or providing additional home-based therapy.


Thats right...they want the quick fix. Take a pill or some medicine and make it go away. They look at it as an illness not a developmental disability.



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28 Jun 2011, 11:43 am

Alternative medicine is not 'cheap' and it is not covered by insurance. It's not done 'instead of' working with your child. It is simply another route to doing the the same thing we are all trying to do .. help a child reach their full potential.

Many alternative therapies have risks and do not work well. Many western medicines and therapies have risks and do not work well. The success of both methods are highly dependent on professionals who know what they are doing. There are well trained skilled individuals on both sides as well as quacks, and incompetent boobs.

I tried alternative medicine years ago for Jordans arthritis .. Didnt help much but neither did anything the rheumatologists did. Both are expensive but only one avenue was covered by insurance. Both were a pain in the arse.. LOL Alternative medicine did not have the side effects or cause any secondary conditions with the standard medications did..

All of it has its place and I dont think it's fair to assume those who take a different route suddenly have lesser goals and priorities when caring for their children.


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28 Jun 2011, 12:58 pm

I will say that most alternative therapies used around here are predicated on the idea that autism is caused by something environmental--food allergies, metals, strep throat virus, etc., and that diet changes, avoiding immunizations, laxatives, and steroids seem to be the main modes of treatment.