What are the symptoms of candida in someone with autism?

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21 Mar 2013, 2:44 pm

And what are some natural ways to get rid of it without drugs?



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21 Mar 2013, 5:32 pm

A giant itchy rash all over your legs, arms, chest, back, or other areas that flares up when you eat sugar, eat too much fruit, GI issues including diarrhea.

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21 Mar 2013, 7:31 pm

I would guess similar symptoms as in an NT child. One of mine and one of my friend's children both had near constant yeast infections when they were babies/toddlers. Her's finally outgrew it with them never figuring out why he was getting them, mine was lactose intolerant, and cutting milk out helped a lot. He also got ear tubes that cut out the near constant ear infections and subsequent rounds of antibiotics. A yeast rash will often bleed when rubbed over by wipies. It also burns and "weeps". It has other visual differences, that I'm sure you could Google, but if the kid goes from clean bottom to bleeding rash in a day, it is probably not a regular diaper rash. This is all from experience with babies, but it is the same infection in adults

As far as I know, there are things you can do to ease the pain and suffering, and slow the spread (a little. It can spread very quickly), but especially if the child is in diapers, I don't believe it can be cured without a prescription. Nystatin cream is extremely cheap, and I believe has a very safe track record. I'm really not sure why it isn't over the counter. It's silly to have to pay for a Dr's visit to get a $6 tube of medicine when your child has chronic yeast infection issues (or you as an adult aren't able to use the over-the-counter medicines for yeast infections/jock itch), but that's the system. I did have a fairly cooperative doctor that would give us a prescription with 6 refills at a time, so I didn't have to go in as often, so that helped some.

If they get it in their mouths, for some reason it is then called thrush, even though it is the same infection. That requires a liquid nystatin (Or an older one that stains everything in the vicinity purple called, I think, Venetian Blue) that is safe for oral use. If they are severe droolers and get thrush, they are prone to spreading it to all the places they drool, especially if you have a chubby little one that has the neck creases, or they dribble down to their armpits or behind their ears. Mine wasn't especially prone to thrush, but my friend's very chubby baby was, and he'd end up with the rash all over him really quickly.

Epsom salt baths help. Absolutely immediate diaper changes, including a full diaper area cleaning each time helps (of course try telling that to the baby with a bleeding bottom--not pleasant). Being able to leave them "open air" for a while helps. Yeast loves dark moist areas, so keeping dry and getting light helps get rid of it. Yogurt with active cultures can help increase good yeast colonies in the gut to help stop sending bad ones down the line. I've never tried this, but the pro-biotic cultures and pills should probably help, and these things can help prevent breaking out in the first place, also, but I'm still pretty sure you need the treatment to get rid of the initial rash, and it will likely come back any time their system gets upset like a stomach virus or round of antibiotics.



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21 Mar 2013, 7:52 pm

http://www.candidamd.com/candida/symptoms.html

http://www.thecandidadiet.com/candidasymptoms.htm


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21 Mar 2013, 8:29 pm

Sorry for my misinterpretation. I thought they were asking about the rashes. This looks like one of those diet things that claims that every non-specific ailment ever is the result of whatever they are claiming they can cure if you simply follow the steps in their extremely affordable book. I am very cynical toward these kinds of claims, so I am no help here whatsoever.



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22 Mar 2013, 2:07 pm

Are you asking about "yeast overgrowth" and autism? Pseudoscience, if you ask me...



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22 Mar 2013, 5:07 pm

Wreck-Gar wrote:
Are you asking about "yeast overgrowth" and autism? Pseudoscience, if you ask me...


No, stomach/digestive system candida. I have an upset stomach all the time, and it persisted even after making some dietary changes. I'm not saying candida causes autism but, rather, that autistics seem especially vulnerable to it (this is documented. Check the research). It may contribute to the inflammation that causes autism, however.

Although I still have a messed up stomach, I have noticed some very positive changes after taking a neuroprotective anti-inflammatory drug from Russia, which leads me to believe that, in my case at least, autism is related to inflammation, which may or may not be gut-related. No idea.



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22 Mar 2013, 9:18 pm

I would not necessarily doubt that allergies (and also intestinal/stomach issues) are positively correlated with autism. I don't have research on it; but I would believe it, if it were credible. You could then stretch that to a positive correlation with allergy created inflammation, I suppose. But correlation is not causation. I don't think getting rid of the allergies would do anything then eliminate allergy symptoms. It would not fix anything else. I am also not sure how any of that connects with yeast.



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22 Mar 2013, 10:58 pm

ASDMommyASDKid wrote:
I would not necessarily doubt that allergies (and also intestinal/stomach issues) are positively correlated with autism. I don't have research on it; but I would believe it, if it were credible. You could then stretch that to a positive correlation with allergy created inflammation, I suppose. But correlation is not causation. I don't think getting rid of the allergies would do anything then eliminate allergy symptoms. It would not fix anything else. I am also not sure how any of that connects with yeast.


Dunno, the inflammation theory of autism is getting pretty widely accepted. Whether or not this is related to gut inflammation is an open question; however, there is a lot of research being done on the topic, which would not be the case if it were simply quack science.

In fact, the well-known stem cell treatment trial being done right now in Sacramento is predicated on the inflammation-allergy hypothesis as it relates to SOME cases of autism. It is posited that some cases of autism may be genetic, and the trial in Sacramento was carefully screened to screen out autistic children who may have had it due to genetics. I had dreadful food allergies as a child, so I know which of the two camps I likely fall into (and, aside from possibly my screwed up psychotic brother, I don't know anyone in my extended or immediate family with anything like autism).



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28 Mar 2013, 8:50 pm

Tyri0n wrote:
I have an upset stomach all the time, and it persisted even after making some dietary changes..


What dietary changes are you making?



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29 Mar 2013, 7:21 am

ASDsmom wrote:
Tyri0n wrote:
I have an upset stomach all the time, and it persisted even after making some dietary changes..


What dietary changes are you making?


Cutting out gluten, casein, fructates, and salicylates. But as of now, it's much better, so maybe it just took time.