Kindergartner attacked by POS aka "teacher".

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Is it the change of weather ? Or the season ? Something in the water ? Something these folks are smoking ? Or maybe they just lost a bunch of brain cells overnight and magically changed from loving, caring teachers to just plain MEAN & COWARDLY BULLIES who take their frustrations out on children ??

Due disclaimer : this video is EXTREMELY DISTURBING to watch. It shows a LOSER POS attacking a 5-yr-old, pulling him up by his collar, slamming his head back against the wall and generally roughing the child up, all the while supposedly screaming abuses at him (which, thankfully, are muted). If it hadn't been for the surveillance camera, this fat, bottom-feeding, trailer trash would never have been busted. Unfortunately for her, what she did to a kindergartner is now openly available for anyone in any corner of the globe with an internet connection to view.

The scbool's response ? Just suspending her without pay for a measly 10 days. No criminal charges, no firing, nothing. She gets to keep her public service, PENSIONABLE job, after attacking an innocent child. Just gets a slap in the wrist, with a meek-as-milk warning that she had better behave or they might actually *consider* firing this human excreta the next time around. Are these people for real ? There ***should*** be no "next time around" ! !

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2551 ... -on-camera


WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS ?????? I presume that this is a neurotypical, talking child ! I cannot even imagine how much abuse could potentially happen behind closed doors to defenseless children like mine who cannot communicate

THANK GOD for surveillance cameras !

I'm fat. I don't live in a trailer, but I'm sure there are plenty of nice folks who do. I realize you're upset, but this teacher's weight and socio-economic status are not the issue.

HisMom, there should be a restraining order on this person to stay several miles away from any type of school or park. They school should also provide counseling for this person and whoever hired her.

You beat me to the punch. A lot of people seem to do this all of the time. They bring in a person's weight, socio-economic status and even their ethnicity all of the time when it is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Why? Why do people do this? What is the point of this? It seems so juvenile.

The issue at hand is that she hurt this child both physically and emotionally. She abused this child. This woman needs to be made to suffer the consequences of her actions and she needs to be put in prison for assault.

So, what social skills are we aspies/auties supposed to learn again? I do not get it. I have tried to look at different iterations and I'm not following it.

Unfortunately, it's common.

I hate to knock the teachers' union; I believe in organized labor. But nothing is perfect, and one bad thing the teachers' union does is protect bad teachers right along with good ones on the basis of seniority.

That is COMPLETELY inappropriate (I don't know how difficult the child might have been in other circumstances, but in the video he didn't even do anything wrong, but it's immaterial-- YOU DON'T DO THAT!!). She ought to be fired or, at minimum, suspended without pay until she undergoes extensive retraining in how to treat children and why you don't treat them like that.

The world is full of people who treat kids like that, and believe it is not only acceptable but correct. One of my friends is actually stuck working as an aide under a teacher like that (she prays every day that the teacher in question will retire soon-- she's over 70).

I've been there-- I let myself be pressured into treating MY kids like that. The results were not pretty. I still have a son who bends over backwards trying to please and cowers every time he makes a mistake (but now at least he can take correction without bursting into tears) and a mean daughter.

I don't care what standards were in 1950-something. You don't have to be all sunshine and rainbows (that's another stupid, damaging myth that we really need to do something about, before we turn into a society of hothouse plants that can't deal with confronting or being anything short of perfect), but treating kids like that begets nothing good.

For the record, my friend is fat, and poor, and would be living in a trailer if her mother hadn't given her a dilapidated cinderblock cottage to renovate in exchange for a place to live.

I'm skinny for a woman who's had four kids, and comparatively wealthy, and live in a doublewide.

My FIL, who was a believer in treating kids that way, was fat and lived in a nice suburban house.

I had a couple of teachers who treated me like that. One was skinny, one was slightly overweight. Both of them lived in nice, tastefully decorated houses in well-respected subdivisions.

Personally, I tend to be suspicious of snappily-dressed people who live in upscale subdivisions with seasonal wreaths on their doors.

I should probably stop being a class bigot.

I am not going to watch the video, b/c I just can't... I have seen one like it (maybe the same one, I don't know b/c I am not going to look at it.

Obviously this person should not be teaching any children much less a child with special needs.

I agree that bringing fat-shaming and socioeconomic issues into the mix, out of anger, is unnecessary, insulting to people in those categories who are not abusive, and detract from the main issue which is how to keep special needs kids safe in schools.

If you look at the different boards and posts you see all kinds of lack of social behavior. What makes the least sense of all is to send a child to school to learn social skills from other kids. A kid is put in with other kids who lack respect, social skills, wisdom, manners and knowledge yet a child is to learn all of these things from other kids. Yet, this is the prevailing belief amongst a lot of NT adults and these NT adults wonder why there is such a huge amount of disrespect and behavior problems from the younger generation.

I can tell you why. It is because it is false that a child will learn these things from other kids. They need to learn from those who know them like other adults. Why can't NT adults connect the dots and see how fallacious this whole thinking they have is? How do people come up with these theories? What is the basis for them?

What is your child supposed to learn from these other children? I don't get it whatsoever.

Why should the school provide counseling for HER at tax payer's expense ? As for the person who hired her, I don't know. S/he probably had no clue about this hag's abusive tendencies. A lot of people present as perfectly "normal" and can hide their sociopathic tendencies really well in most situations, reserving their cruelty and abuse for the more vulnerable / weak ones.

What angers me about the whole situation is that by simply slapping her in the wrists, she isn't going to get into any real trouble. She may probably just quietly quit, and when the public anger has died down, equally quietly get another job working with other equally vulnerable sections of the population. Now, if this went into her background record, however, others can be saved from her.

A criminal charge for assault is just what is called for ... Not suspension without pay for just 10 freaking days. She gets to return and then what ? No more uncomfortable surveillance cameras on campus ?

This district (and a few others that I can think of) should be ashamed of themselves.

Last edited by HisMom on 15 May 2014, 11:42 am, edited 1 time in total.

I get what you are saying, but I wasn't saying that ALL fat, trailer dwelling people are abusive. I understand that it may have come across that way, but that honestly was not my intent.

No broad strokes of the brush from me, *This* woman is fat and acts like a real piece of work, so my "bottom feeding fat" comment was directed at *her*, and her alone. Admittedly, name-calling is childish, but I don't feel like acting in a dignified manner towards scum like this woman.

I have no clue if she lives in a trailer or not, but she is trash, nonetheless.

Why should the taxpayers pay for education at all for anyone?

They expect the less behaved ones to learn from the better behaved ones b/c the "good" ones get praised. The child is supposed to covet the praise and imitate the ones who get it, to get their own praise. This works on NT kids in certain age groups who can indeed mimic this behavior. It works less well for autistic kids who cannot imitate well, or just cannot replicate the behavior b/c of temperament.

They also expect kids to learn how to interact with each other based on this model. The kids shame each other out of certain behaviors like tattling and whining by making fun of kids who do not conform to the age-appropriate skills. This works on most NT kids to at least some degree. This is supposed to be more effective than adult modeling, especially later on when NT kids care more about what peers think than adults. The fact that some kids will pick up bad behaviors is a cost, but it is considered to be worth it overall, apparently.

Not justifying it mind you, just letting you know the thought process behind it, best that I can tell.

I understand what you're saying. Honestly, when I look at the behavior of kids today I do not see how it is truthfully effective in the slightest. It seems like kids are imitating someone all right. They are imitating those who they believe is cool like Justin Bieber. When I look around the outcome is a failure.

It seems like that NTs are failing to socialize their NT children but we as autistics are expected to emulate what they do. Why? Why would we model something that does not even seem to work for NT children? This is where NT thinking completely lost upon me. Why wouldn't we go with a better model?

Why wouldn't a person go to another person who has more wisdom and knowledge then himself instead of people who seem to have no clue as to how to socialize their children properly? Why follow a model that leads to a negative outcome even for NTs?

I don't think it is a matter of the bulk of NT kids not being socialized properly. When kids get together without adult supervision, they gravitate toward Lord of the Flies type tendencies. Hierarchies form and it gets nasty. They are expected to do this in short spurts (unlike Lord of the Flies) with the notion that with practice (interrupted with adult contact) they can do this in longer spurts, with less overt rudeness, and evolve to the adult model of more subtle hierarchical behaviors.

I forgot who posted it, but someone posted a very good essay about what high school is like socially and it is definitely related to this discussion.

I honestly don't get what this has to do with the intent of this thread, which is the abuse of children by alleged adults in a school setting. Can we please talk about how to protect our kids - especially the non-communicative ones in a special ed setting ? Thank you.

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