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13 Mar 2015, 12:53 pm

My daughter's friend was diagnosed as having ASD about a year ago. Today she was talking to my daughter and me about not knowing whether she has it and some things she does and has trouble with that make it seem to her like she might. She doesn't seem to know that she was diagnosed, though.

I kept my mouth shut and tried not to look at her and she started talking about how people think you're lying when you don't make eye contact.....ouch!!

Is it best to keep quiet, or do I tell her mother, who I am friendly with but not friends with, that her daughter seems to want answers why certain things are difficult? I am already ostracizes enough and can't bear the thought of being more so, plus this child is one of my daughter's few friends. So I want to preserve that and am worried about angering the mom in a way that could interfere with a positive relationship.

I don't want to seem like I know it all, the child also said labels suck and I agree. But I feel bad for the child so if there is a polite way to suggest maybe she's best off hearing from who she loves rather than going to other people, I would want her to be able to do that.

What do others think?



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13 Mar 2015, 1:23 pm

25 minutes and too late to edit. I meant I'm already feeling ostracized and don't want to make it worse. Or interfere with the friendship.



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13 Mar 2015, 1:28 pm

I would say...unless you're really friendly with the mother, that you don't bring up what happened. Some people respond well to this sort of thing--others don't. If the mother talks about Asperger's/autism--then, maybe.

If the girl asks about eye contact and lying again, explain to her that, sometimes, people, at times, don't make eye contact because some people think direct eye contact is "staring."



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13 Mar 2015, 1:30 pm

It's hard to say without knowing the mom. If I was in your situation, there are some moms I know that I think would be open to hearing that, and others who would take it the wrong way.

Did the mother tell you the daughter was diagnosed? If so, then I would guess she would be receptive since she shared this with you. You wouldn't be telling her to tell her daughter, you would just be relaying what her child said so that she could consider whether she thinks her daughter should be informed or not.

Could it be that she *did* tell the child, but the child is questioning it? She wouldn't necessarily tell you about the fact that she was diagnosed if she doesn't know you know.



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13 Mar 2015, 1:41 pm

The mother told me after she was diagnosed, and the parents paid I think themselves, so they must have wanted to know and wondered.

The child could have been told and not understood, but I vaguely remember her mom saying they weren't telling her yet.



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13 Mar 2015, 1:59 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I would say...unless you're really friendly with the mother, that you don't bring up what happened. Some people respond well to this sort of thing--others don't. If the mother talks about Asperger's/autism--then, maybe.

If the girl asks about eye contact and lying again, explain to her that, sometimes, people, at times, don't make eye contact because some people think direct eye contact is "staring."

I suspect you're right, it's dangerous to say anything. I'm still torn though, she is a not quite friend who is like to be friends with so it's hard to keep secret something I'd want to know, though I don't think I know things about my kids that are secrets from them so it's hard to be clear how I would feel :(



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13 Mar 2015, 2:03 pm

I see nothing wrong with telling the mother that her daughter was thinking about her traits and wondering if she is autistic. That seems like information that a parent would want to know to decide when is the right time to tell their child about the diagnosis.


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13 Mar 2015, 2:36 pm

You could tell her, and phrase it in a way that does not imply whether she should or should not tell her kid (as that is of course not your business). Say something like "I just want to give you a heads up, your kid was talking about this, I wasn't sure whether to tell you but I thought it's best you knew". Make no suggestions on whether she should tell her kid unless she asks. People really don't like unwanted advice.



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13 Mar 2015, 3:06 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
I see nothing wrong with telling the mother that her daughter was thinking about her traits and wondering if she is autistic. That seems like information that a parent would want to know to decide when is the right time to tell their child about the diagnosis.

It seems that way to me, too. Just not sure that's how the mom will feel? I think she sees things from a more typical perspective, so it's confusing as I think I see things more how her daughter would, what I'd want is to not have to wonder, but I do respect her as a parent.



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13 Mar 2015, 3:08 pm

trollcatman wrote:
You could tell her, and phrase it in a way that does not imply whether she should or should not tell her kid (as that is of course not your business). Say something like "I just want to give you a heads up, your kid was talking about this, I wasn't sure whether to tell you but I thought it's best you knew". Make no suggestions on whether she should tell her kid unless she asks. People really don't like unwanted advice.

Yes, thank you. That sounds like it is respectful of her wishes and sensitive to both of them. I wish it were easier to keep from upsetting and angering other people!!



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13 Mar 2015, 3:28 pm

I would just tell the mom the fact that her daughter was talking about this with your daughter.
You don't have to include your opinion on whether to tell her daughter about the diagnosis, but just tell her the fact that her daughter is wondering, since she might not know otherwise.


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13 Mar 2015, 3:36 pm

In this situation, I would encourage the child to talk to the parents, saying something like, "If you have questions about this, you should ask your mom."

Doing this guides the child in a good direction and also means you don't have to bring it up with her mother. It gives no hint at all about whether or not you know anything. The only thing you "know" in this situation is that it is good to talk to one's parents when one has questions like this.



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13 Mar 2015, 4:37 pm

I would say that I overheard her talking about it, but not offer any suggestions as to how to proceed unless she asked. If I were her I would certainly want to know that my child was talking about it. But I wouldn't want any unsolicited advice.

My son is only 7, but the barman at my rugby club* knows more about how school is going than I do. Some kids just don't talk to their parents.

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*we are actually friends, so it's not just like he serves drinks to me.



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13 Mar 2015, 5:38 pm

nerdygirl wrote:
In this situation, I would encourage the child to talk to the parents, saying something like, "If you have questions about this, you should ask your mom."

Doing this guides the child in a good direction and also means you don't have to bring it up with her mother. It gives no hint at all about whether or not you know anything. The only thing you "know" in this situation is that it is good to talk to one's parents when one has questions like this.

That is a wonderful idea, thank you!



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13 Mar 2015, 5:41 pm

elkclan wrote:
I would say that I overheard her talking about it, but not offer any suggestions as to how to proceed unless she asked. If I were her I would certainly want to know that my child was talking about it. But I wouldn't want any unsolicited advice.

My son is only 7, but the barman at my rugby club* knows more about how school is going than I do. Some kids just don't talk to their parents.

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*we are actually friends, so it's not just like he serves drinks to me.

This could work, too. I'd never bring it up and wouldn't want to leave the mom thinking I somehow made this happen. She is very positive person and I admire so much about how she parents!



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16 Mar 2015, 10:23 am

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In this situation, I would encourage the child to talk to the parents, saying something like, "If you have questions about this, you should ask your mom."


If someone said this to my son, he would come home and say, "X's mom says I should talk to you about autism". Then I'd be wondering what she meant by that, and whether it was meant kindly or not, and how the subject came up in the first place.