Stressing about tomorrows evaluations....waaa

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carolgatto
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21 May 2007, 9:10 am

I am stressing about tomorrows evaluations for my two kids (7 & 2 1/2). With my little guy I haven't been able to find anyone to see him at his age so this is a welcome thing, although I am still nervous. As for my 7 yr old, I am hoping this will help me with the back and forth we have been going through. With her, she began having difficulties in kindegarten and when my son was dx'd by a visiting dev. ped. they suggested we get evaluated as well. We did and she was dx'd HFA with ADHD and a possible LD. So alot of stuff finally made sense with her and how she behaves, but when I took this info. to the school they act like I am nuts and tell me she is fine although she continues to have difficulties with reading and written language as well as the stuff that goes along with HFA. This "yes she is" "no she isn't" stuff has me at my wits end and she gets no help at school because of it. I am hoping that tomorrow we will begin to get some answers, but what if it gives me more questions. I have seen for myself the troubles she has with school, with social issues and the literal thinking, but what if the people tomorrow say it's something else or nothing? Who do I believe, who do I listen to? My gut says listen to ME, is that ultimately what I should do? Do I look for another doctor if tomorrow doesn't go well? Oh man I'm never gonna make it through today,lol.



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21 May 2007, 9:25 am

Yes you will.

All tommorow offers is another opionion. If you don't like it, you don't have to present anything to the school about it. Just keep looking. With your daughter, I would ask them to substantiate how she is "fine". If you have evidence that she has an LD, and the school is saying that she is now behind, that is something they cannot refute. Can you bring a friend or your husband to one of these meetings? I find I get so emotional the school could tell me that my sons problem is he is made of cheese and I would end up nodding my head appologising for his being made of cheese, and leaving very confused. Having my husband at the meetings is great, because they take a man more seriously, and he does not buy into their crap, keeping them on topic and demanding answers, not side steps.

Have you considered the book I recommened for your daughters reading?



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21 May 2007, 9:49 am

I have not even told the school she is having this round of testing, just so that if I don't like it, they don't need to know. I am so not good at this waiting stuff and get so obsessed in my head over everything that could go right or wrong tomorrow. Maybe I will join my little guy in pulling out all the garbage bags in the box one at a time,lol. I bet it makes me feel better. And yes there is not a safe box of tissues in the house either,lol.

I have looked into the book and do like it, so I am gonna see what they say tomorrow because I don't want to start one if they say start another.....did that make sense? I am losing it now big time.

I plan on taking my son's psych with me for his next one and maybe hubby for my daughter's, but hubby is not always a good thing,lol. They might be able to set him off and then we would be in real trouble. I somehow don't see us getting much help after the names he would call them. Maybe I will double up his meds the night before...that might work...hahaha.

Thanks for always listening to me, you always make me feel much better.



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21 May 2007, 4:37 pm

The pulling out the bags is something I could see myself doing! LoL!

As for the book, ask about it tommorow, I really think though that if they do give you another program, look both over, the book and the program they suggest, and pick the one you can see your daughter having the best luck with. I gotta say though, that book had my son reading at 8 years of age in only a month! And reading well after 6, it was amazing to watch, I felt like we accomplished the impossible!

Hang in there! I have a feeling you may be finally getting somewhere, at least, we have to believe that right?



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22 May 2007, 6:33 pm

carolgatto wrote:
I am stressing about tomorrows evaluations for my two kids (7 & 2 1/2).


I'll be thinking about you all day. Hope it goes well.

I was getting no joy from my 7 yo's school until I started my 1 - 2 daily e-mail campaigns. Phone calls and face to face meetings were getting me nowhere.

So e-mail regularly and cc it to the classroom teacher, special ed teacher and Vice Principal. Luckily the Vice Principal is great. But my back up plan if she stops being supportive is to go the the Principal .... and then to his boss and so on up the ladder.

I tell them what happens at home too with meltdowns etc

I agree with EarthCalling about getting emotional - I absolutely get emotional at meetings and the phone so that's where e-mails help me a lot.

Having your husband at the meeting is good, as long as he doesn't just sit there saying nothing (like my husband).



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23 May 2007, 7:54 am

Smelena wrote:

Having your husband at the meeting is good, as long as he doesn't just sit there saying nothing (like my husband).


Or, as carolgatto has suggested, as long as he does not start yelling obsenities!
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So how did the evaluations go?



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23 May 2007, 10:10 am

OK, I lived through the night and made it to Mindworks yesterday,lol. It was a two hour ride, but well worth it so far. Basically yesterday we spent the whole time going over histories, reviewing what had been done and what hasn't, looking at my daughters school work, and generally getting to know everything about each other. I felt extremely comfortable with the psychologist and confident that she was well educated and not afraid to send me to her superior should a situation that she wasn't comfortable with arise. She told me right at the start that if she felt it necessary after some more evals. and testing she may well send my little guy on to her superior, simply because she is very much more experienced with very young children. I like a doctor who isn't afraid to say they feel someone else can do better for me or my child, it shows intelligence and compassion. The place was clean and neat and totally kid friendly, I mean totally. The constant running in and out of the office, taking out every toy that was there and the constant coming in for hugs from my daughter didn't even phase them. They had crayons and markers and stacks of paper to draw pictures, and a big magnetic board for them to hang them up. Ok she didn't even flinch when my little booger decided for some reason he should spit at her, she simply told him that made her feel bad and that he should say sorry. He did, too. So all that aside it went well.

For my little guy she agreed he was still so very sensory that OT was needed and not just a little bit but an entire program. She felt he needed another full psychological exam, along with speech/language and behavioral evaluations. She said he was not at all ready to be placed in a public school classroom, especially since he is a runner and as she says, public school teachers are not trained to deal with a child who will meltdown, let alone one who will get up without warning and run possibly out of the room or building. She said I really couldn't be doing more than I am now, but that I need help. She was very nice about it and said what I already had been complaining about, that I am not an expert, a teacher, a psychologist or a therapist and there are things that need to be done that I couldn't be expected to know ho to do, my words not hers, she was more tactful,lol. She said it wasn't fair that I should have to be everything to this child and not really get time to just be his parent and she was apaaled that no one has stepped in to help us. The plan is this. Because after the child find screening the school said they will do the evaluations, we will let them take the lead and do what they are going to. It's free this way and she understands how expensive this can all be. After that she will review exactly what was done and then they will do anything she thinks wasn't done that should have been or wasn't done correctly. This sounds good to me. At least I will know what results I can trust and the answers to alot of my questions. Then when it is all done we will know exactly what he needs as far as therapies and what type of school enviroment he will need.

She also is getting in touch with a woman they work with who is a school consultant. It is her job to know the ins and outs of the different school systems and what they offer and what they actually have as far as special education and help. This way we will know if there is an appropriate program for my son or if we need to look at private schools. This will put aside my biggest fear, that he will get placed in a class that is not good for him or meeting his needs.

Then we moved on to my daughter. She looked at the work samples and listened to the whole long story and decided that she absolutely needs further testing. The test that have been used to evaluate her so far were for the most part the WISC tests and these can be very broad and not necessarily pinpoint where the problem actually lies. So she will get a different IQ test (Stanford Binet) and a psychological eval. (looking closely at emotional age) and several tests that are designed to look at each step of the reading and writting process and because she thought about it later she is throwing in the one we all have been wondering about the visual learning tests...yippie! I really got a good feeling from this place and they were very careful to be sure I was all right as well as my kids. We reviewed the possibility that she could go through all this and it could be revealed that she is right on that borderline and would I be able to accept that. This seemed funny to me( I guess some moms wouldn't be) and "of course I could" I said. That would be great news and then it would just be a matter of support and constant vigilant eye to be sure she continued to progress forward, I could relax alot. Either way it turns out will be better than not knowing what is going on like now.

The school in the mean time called and told me that they have scheduled an eligibility meeting for the 29th, giving me no time to have all this done, so I called them this morning and told them to put it on their schedule for the August meetings. They didn't like this,of course not I might have information they don't want to hear, but they finally agreed.

So all in all I was very pleased with the appointment and feel confident that I might finally get some answers and more important some help.



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23 May 2007, 11:57 pm

carolgatto wrote:
She said I really couldn't be doing more than I am now, but that I need help. She was very nice about it and said what I already had been complaining about, that I am not an expert, a teacher, a psychologist or a therapist and there are things that need to be done that I couldn't be expected to know ho to do, my words not hers, she was more tactful,lol. She said it wasn't fair that I should have to be everything to this child and not really get time to just be his parent and she was apaaled that no one has stepped in to help us.

So all in all I was very pleased with the appointment and feel confident that I might finally get some answers and more important some help.


Yay - happy to hear it went well.

And glad to know she told you you couldn't be doing more than you are now ..... I'd definantly figured that out from your other posts!

Hope it all gets easier now!



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24 May 2007, 12:05 am

BTW I'm now stressing about my 8 year old's evaluation on Monday.

My 7 year old has been diagnosed with Asperger's and we strongly suspect our 8 year old has it too!

But I'm worried they'll say no he doesn't - and then how will we cope? His meltdowns are getting more frequent and violent and scaring us! He only meltsdown at home and not at school.

We definantly need help for him.

I spoke to his classroom teacher this morning - what a d*ckhead he is. He told me my son's meltdowns were due to me being anxious and my son is picking up on my anxiety!!

Sigh ... you think teacher's would learn something over the years!

Let me continue my b*tch about the teacher - he recently did a 5 week Feldenkrais course and now thinks he is the world's leading expert on back pain. His said a couple of things about physios not knowing what they're talking about etc. Well excuse me - I did 4 years at university + ongoing training and you've done 5 weeks. 8O

This teacher has given my neighbour the same anxiety spiel. She is the most easygoing person I know. Her son (who is also 8 and in the same class as my 8 yo) has only been speaking English for 18 months. He is extremely bright but recently failed a maths test about shapes because he didn't know the English words for them. My neighbour went up to complain that he's not getting enough help with his English. So the teacher says - you're obviously anxious about your son and he's picking up on that anxiety and this is why he failed the maths test. 8O