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10 Jan 2008, 5:45 pm

What kind of protection do our kids have in childcare (specifically before and after care programs that are accredited)? Is he protected in childcare with IEP?

This is so important because I work full time and need care for him (only eight).

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10 Jan 2008, 5:46 pm

equinn wrote:
What kind of protection do our kids have in childcare (specifically before and after care programs that are accredited)? Is he protected in childcare with IEP?

This is so important because I work full time and need care for him (only eight).

thanks,

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i do not believe that you are protectedby an IEP in childcare... IEP is for education only...

what type of protection are you looking for?


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10 Jan 2008, 5:50 pm

I have never heard of IEP's covering non-school activities. ADA protects people with disabilities but "within reason" can be used subjectively. For instance, here in town a woman protested the YMCA after-school program because they wouldn't accept her son-he was autistic and had a lot of special accomodation requirements. The Media shamed the Y into reversing their decision, but they were within their legal rights-supposedly.



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10 Jan 2008, 5:53 pm

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I have never heard of IEP's covering non-school activities. ADA protects people with disabilities but "within reason" can be used subjectively. For instance, here in town a woman protested the YMCA after-school program because they wouldn't accept her son-he was autistic and had a lot of special accomodation requirements. The Media shamed the Y into reversing their decision, but they were within their legal rights-supposedly.


Way To Go for that woman... YMCA can be real sucky...


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10 Jan 2008, 6:39 pm

Protection in the way of accomodating my son's needs rather than kicking him out of program after 3 strikes. My son had trouble with previous before care program. I took him out before was booted--child care worker was taking copious notes and not understanding of my son's needs.

I work full time and need before and after care (for next year). It's hard for me to believe these programs that are accredited by NAEYC can discriminate against kids with special needs.

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10 Jan 2008, 7:07 pm

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/childq&a.htm

I think I answered my own question.

Child must be accepted but can be expelled regardless of ADA if he/she is a threat to other children's safety.



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11 Jan 2008, 10:25 am

Yeah, like I said, child care is covered by the ADA not an IEP. And they use "within reason" the way they want.



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12 Jan 2008, 11:44 am

equinn wrote:
Protection in the way of accomodating my son's needs rather than kicking him out of program after 3 strikes. My son had trouble with previous before care program. I took him out before was booted--child care worker was taking copious notes and not understanding of my son's needs.

I work full time and need before and after care (for next year). It's hard for me to believe these programs that are accredited by NAEYC can discriminate against kids with special needs.

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Very often these programs simply don't have enough adults to manage children with special needs. They barely have enough adults to manage the NT kids; I don't believe most of them have enough adults to really keep the kids safe.

See if there is a church run daycare nearby who will take your child and have the school transport him/her there. If transportation is not in your IEP, call a meeting and get it put in there.

IEPs do NOT extend to after school care. No one has to take your child. It sucks. It sucked 20 years ago when I needed daycare, and it still sucks. A church daycare saved me.

But - all daycare ends after elementary school/age 12 due to insurance issues, so be ready for this.


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12 Jan 2008, 11:48 am

for someone with special needs the best idea is to contact a caretaker's repository... they are organizations who will pair your child with a caretaker experienced in those situations...

home caretaking is the best, the child comes home and is greeted by the same caretaker over and over and a good routine is established... at a daycare center there is no routine and the child may have 5-10 different caretakers with them in a week, not a good situation for an autie...


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12 Jan 2008, 2:52 pm

I'm always on the fence with this like this. No, IEPs don't cover non-educational environments. I am often torn between disclosing my daughter's autism so she is treated fairly...and wondering if disclosure with result in the opposite actually happening. It's tricky. I suppose in the case of needing care for your eight year old, it would be important to speak directly with the people who will be caring for him and inform them of things that will help make his life (and theirs) more comfortable. This is what I try to do. Where IEPs are not in effect, we have to count on having a good relationship with the people our children need to help them. If you're an aspie like me, it's not so easy 8O but I get through it.


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