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18 Oct 2008, 8:45 am

Is it ever okay for a father to ask his fourteen year old daughter if she can handle the drugs at a Rock Concert, if she has a Learning Disability?

Why wouldn't You ask this question to a teenager who doesn't have a Learning Disability?



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18 Oct 2008, 8:54 am

No. It's illegal, and in some states will get him arrested for child abuse. If you are the child in this situation, you should get help from a responsible adult immediately. Being around a drug addict is never a good thing.


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18 Oct 2008, 8:56 am

I think that's innappropriate to say to anyone regardless. :(



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18 Oct 2008, 9:06 am

totally inappropriate!.....abuse, idk.......the man needs a-talkin' to- what the F was he thinking ???



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18 Oct 2008, 9:28 am

Shadowcat wrote:
Is it ever okay for a father to ask his fourteen year old daughter if she can handle the drugs at a Rock Concert, if she has a Learning Disability?

Why wouldn't You ask this question to a teenager who doesn't have a Learning Disability?


Because a teenager without LD would have known it's wrong. A teenager without LD might have objected. Whoever this father is, I hope he realizes what he did was immoral and illegal.



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18 Oct 2008, 9:34 am

Well, seems like it would all be in the tone it was given.

Can handle? can handle the smell of weed in the air? I got high off second hand smoke at a pink floyd concert. I apparently couldn't "handle" it.

Can handle? your body can cope with the effects of taking the drugs.

Can handle? Are you sure you can say no if they ask you to take some?

Can handle? C'mon man, bring me some of the good stuff.



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18 Oct 2008, 9:57 am

Shadowcat, were you the LD teenager in your orignal post?



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18 Oct 2008, 12:11 pm

Um...really depends on the context.

"Hi dad, I'm going to a rock concert tonight."

"So, you think you can handle all of the drugs? Ha Ha Ha."

Does NOT imply that the father is giving drugs to the teenager. It could merely be a joke. My dad used to joke around all the time that band members, and most of the people that went to shows were all addicted to meth. Is that abuse?

Or, the father could have been refering to the marijuana in the air, or people trying to push drugs. None of what was said implies that the father is giving illegal drugs to the teenager, or condoning the use of them. Even a LD teenager would realize that, unless the father had been wishy-washy about his OWN stance on illegal drugs in front of said teenager.



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18 Oct 2008, 12:31 pm

Katie_WPG wrote:
Um...really depends on the context.

"Hi dad, I'm going to a rock concert tonight."

"So, you think you can handle all of the drugs? Ha Ha Ha."

Does NOT imply that the father is giving drugs to the teenager. It could merely be a joke. My dad used to joke around all the time that band members, and most of the people that went to shows were all addicted to meth. Is that abuse?

Or, the father could have been refering to the marijuana in the air, or people trying to push drugs. None of what was said implies that the father is giving illegal drugs to the teenager, or condoning the use of them. Even a LD teenager would realize that, unless the father had been wishy-washy about his OWN stance on illegal drugs in front of said teenager.


Nonetheless, drug-addiction is not funny.



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18 Oct 2008, 12:40 pm

Shadowcat wrote:
Is it ever okay for a father to ask his fourteen year old daughter if she can handle the drugs at a Rock Concert, if she has a Learning Disability?

Why wouldn't You ask this question to a teenager who doesn't have a Learning Disability?


i think the context here is important.

it could a reference to a universal expectation that she will be exposed to the smell of marijuana at a rock concert.
second hand inhalation and a concern for this event. marijuana can cause tiredness, hunger, nausea etc and he may be concerened of the affect it nay have on her.

it could be a reference ot being exposed to actually visualising the consumption of drugs at a rock concert, again a universal expectation.
what would her reaction be if she saw/witnessed this., i.e would she go and tell the police.

there was no indication in the ( rather loaded) question that the father expected her daughter to be taking drugs. allthou ti was interesting that a lot of replies make this assumption.

you wouldnt ask this to a teenager without a learning diff as there is a reasonable expectation that the teenager would have a reasonable idea of what they would, see, smell, witness and react to. sometimes these things have to be pointed out to ones with AS especially novel situations and learning an apprpriate response.


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18 Oct 2008, 12:43 pm

Wilfully exposing your kid to drugs is just wrong, no matter how you slice it.



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18 Oct 2008, 3:54 pm

Well, considering the fact that some fathers neglect, beat, or molest their children; I really don't think that a joke about marijuana at concerts in anything to call CPS/CFS over.



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18 Oct 2008, 6:10 pm

I would interpret what the father said as "There's a lot of drug use at rock concerts. Do you think you can handle yourself in an appropriate manner with people around you using drugs?"

And no, I don't think that's abuse.



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18 Oct 2008, 6:45 pm

I would ask the question of 'why is a 14 year old going to that kind of rock concert?"
Is it just with other kids? Is there adult supervision? Is it like the New Kids on the Block? (sorry, not up on the latest groups? or is a Punk concert?

At what age would you even concider letting a child go to a concert un-supervised?

I don't know what they do now days but in 1970 I would not have seen a 14 year old at any of the concerts I went to.


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18 Oct 2008, 10:22 pm

The original question needs to be clarified. I am not sure what the OP means to suggest the father asked.

Did he OFFER the child drugs at a rock concert?

Or did he discuss the prevalence of drugs at rock concerts, in an effort to warn the child because the child was already planning to go to a rock concert?

Or did he discuss the prevalence of drugs at rock concerts, basically assuming the child would take part and condoning the idea.

The first would be wrong.

The second would be a sadly necessary topic to review with any teen who didn't know what they might get into. I still remember my first "Day on the Green" back in the seventies and how totally unprepared I was for what was going on around me. Pre-discussion would have been nice.

The third would be wrong, similar to the first.


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