Over monitoring or not by school?
Is monitoring an 8th grade boy(14) neccessary to and from lunch? I told the case manager to let him get himself to lunch on time. But according to my son, they have continue to clamp down on him. They think he needs to be monitoring at lunch time. He doesn't has issue at school, except during lunch. He say it is ruining his days at school. He says, that is why he will not stay after school for homework help, that I set up for math!
The school district brought back into the school district, the other students will behavior problems, and I think they are watching all LD kids with a new point sheet, even if it is not in the IEP. I told him to just do what the teachers say, and therefore he can loose the point sheet with good behavior in 4 wks.
He's old enough to know better and should have been disciplined, but monitoring every day now seems a bit much.
My girlfriends son doesn't eat his lunch, either. He just sits there, though.
Kramer... I know you think your helping, but would you please stop posting stuff like this? He went to the computer lab to work on an assignment, he didnt do anything that needs punishment. The only thing that needs to be done is to explain to him that he should inform a teacher before skipping lunch. I realize that your first instinct is to inflict harm on a child who doesnt meet your exact expectations, but looking for new and unusual reasons to punish a child isnt helping anybody.
For tigerlady:
Schools (especially public schools) are crazy wastes of time. Don't expect to be rational, or reasonable with them. They are nothing more then convenient places to store children until our society no longer feels guilty about making them support themselves. If you expect anything more from school like a reasonable, or effective education then you will likely be disappointed. The best thing you can do is limit your child's exposure to such a place, and try to humor the system by following the inane rules enough to get by.
For tigerlady:
Schools (especially public schools) are crazy wastes of time. Don't expect to be rational, or reasonable with them. They are nothing more then convenient places to store children until our society no longer feels guilty about making them support themselves. If you expect anything more from school like a reasonable, or effective education then you will likely be disappointed. The best thing you can do is limit your child's exposure to such a place, and try to humor the system by following the inane rules enough to get by.
Hahaha. You haven't the first clue as to what you're talking about. Inflict harm on a child? Go f*ck yourself as far as I'm concerned.
Rules are rules for a reason. You can't have kids wandering the halls of the school. PERIOD. Anybody else would have been punished too. I said the punishment was excessive. Again, go f*ck yourself.
Thank you Tracker
I have been trying to get him to go along with the school, by eating more timely and then he can go to the library, to chill out.
He seem to get it, at parent/teacher conferences today!
He found a friend, that will sit with him during lunch. They are supporting each other and becoming good friends!
Err, your welcome tigerlady
Sorry if I came out as too pessimistic about schooling. On occasion there are good teachers who will provide you with help and good information. But the point still stands that many people in the school system are more interested in enforcing rules made up by an ineffective bureaucracy then actually being helpful. Trying to fight against such a system is a difficult matter at best, and even more difficult if you happen to be a child in the system (doubly so if your considered defective).
I have found that trying to change the system by yourself without any help isnt going to work when the system is design to crush and punish any dissenting opinions. Its better just to fake agreement and compliance so that they will leave you alone until you can get home.
As far as explaining this to your son, honesty is your best option. Just tell him that the world is full of people who are more interested in enforcing rules then being logical or helpful. If he is to be successful at lying (an important skill in human society), he will need to learn to pacify these people by acting like he agrees.
And while I think I will probably end up regretting this, I must address Kramer once again by saying please limit your comments to information that will help the poster. Telling me 'Go f*ck yourself' is neither helpful nor proper. While your intention may be trying to help, you must realize that being overly strict and punishing a child when no offense was intended isnt helpful in teaching the child, or helping him mature. Being understanding, quick to listen, and forgiving when simple mistakes are made creates a much more effective relationship. Growing up autistic is hard enough without parents making it even more unbearable.
Sorry if I came out as too pessimistic about schooling. On occasion there are good teachers who will provide you with help and good information. But the point still stands that many people in the school system are more interested in enforcing rules made up by an ineffective bureaucracy then actually being helpful. Trying to fight against such a system is a difficult matter at best, and even more difficult if you happen to be a child in the system (doubly so if your considered defective).
I have found that trying to change the system by yourself without any help isnt going to work when the system is design to crush and punish any dissenting opinions. Its better just to fake agreement and compliance so that they will leave you alone until you can get home.
As far as explaining this to your son, honesty is your best option. Just tell him that the world is full of people who are more interested in enforcing rules then being logical or helpful. If he is to be successful at lying (an important skill in human society), he will need to learn to pacify these people by acting like he agrees.
And while I think I will probably end up regretting this, I must address Kramer once again by saying please limit your comments to information that will help the poster. Telling me 'Go f*ck yourself' is neither helpful nor proper. While your intention may be trying to help, you must realize that being overly strict and punishing a child when no offense was intended isnt helpful in teaching the child, or helping him mature. Being understanding, quick to listen, and forgiving when simple mistakes are made creates a much more effective relationship. Growing up autistic is hard enough without parents making it even more unbearable.
Being affected with Aspergers doesn't give the individual a free pass to break the rules without consequence. You do the crime then you do the time. Simple as that. Aspergers is a social disorder. These kids do know wrong from right, though.
How did I belittle someone?
I refuse to patronize the inflicted. They're members of society like everyone else. They follow the same rules/standards.
It's not my fault you choose to make excuses. That's your fault.
kramer- i don't really understand, nor condone your methods. yes, our kids should be held to a certain standard. yes, they should follow rules. ........you come across as someone who absolutely needs to be right- needs to be listened to no matter what- really, how dare anyone contradict you ?...........whatever
That's your perception of me. That's also your fault, not mine.
I understand my methods go against the grain and most of you mothers do not condone them. However, they work. They work better than you give them credit for. I'm not trying to toot my own horn, though. My methods ARE a little bit selfish. There is no doubt about that. I don't want to be taking care of a 30 year old "kid" when I'm 50.
We want our kids to be independent, but being aware of themselves and how to self- regulate is a key to any disable person to live in this world!
We treat him like a normal child. He is during very well, except in loud crowds. If he has to stand in a long lunch line of noise kids, it is overwhelming to him!
We are trying to help him overcome, this but the school says that legally he needs to eat lunch. They don't want him to wait until the lunch line goes down! That is the issue for him!
