Anyone have behaviorial and/or gifted IEP?

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Lucymac
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24 Dec 2008, 12:22 pm

Or know what exactly this means?? What exactly would be on a gifted IEP?
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24 Dec 2008, 5:36 pm

My daughters IQ falls into the gifted catergory but her learning ability at school is just average to below because her learning is impaired by having AS and/or ADD. The teachers would put under a gifted individual education plan otherwise.



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24 Dec 2008, 6:17 pm

A gifted IEP would have whatever modifications the student would have to meet his/her needs for gifted education. In some schools, that would be attending gifted or "challenge" classes x times per week; in other schools it would be handled by modifying the material within the general class. Either way, just like any other learning support, the challenge material needs to be provided for within the students' day/week, and the responsibility for providing it needs to be assigned to a particular faculty member. Our local high school even has different learning support for gifted students, so a gifted high school student who has a resource period will have a different resource class from a student who is not gifted. All of this is set out in the IEP or the GIEP.



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24 Dec 2008, 7:16 pm

I'm north of Smart, but south of Intelligent...;)



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24 Dec 2008, 7:34 pm

daughter had a 504 plan that included both gifted & talented classes , and behavioral support....daughter chose to not do the gifted classes this year, as she was told she had to make the choice between gifted classes & band. daughter chose band.



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27 Dec 2008, 2:13 pm

My daughters IQ falls into the gifted range. I have been told that, academically she should be at the top of her class. She often does not get the work done 'cause she off in her own world. She get's distracted by some of her own thoughts and the teachers have difficulty motivating her. Organisational skills are not good eithier. If she was more dedicated and did the work - They would have put her in the gifted program. What is the point if she is not doing or struggling to focus on what they got as it is. That is what was expressed to me being the issue. They believe she is not suited to being in the gifted IEP program.
It's sad that academically she does no where near reach her ability because she is so bright.



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27 Dec 2008, 4:04 pm

BellaDonna wrote:
If she was more dedicated and did the work...

Did they use those exact words?


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27 Dec 2008, 4:07 pm

Dwight, I wonder.. But this is the part I don't understand.

BellaDonna wrote:
What is the point if she is not doing or struggling to focus on what they got as it is. That is what was expressed to me being the issue.


You're boring a child by teaching her below her level. So rather than teach to her level, you bore her more and call that being the issue?


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27 Dec 2008, 4:43 pm

I agree. Alot of the teachers have pissed me off with their attitude or way they think. I try to get involved as much as I can but I can't make the school do something that they are not agreeing to. Most of the times i find they don't understand high functioning autism or AS. They really don't. It doesn't seem to make no difference in what I try to do or explain to them neithier.
I try and have a good attitude. Just cross my fingers and wish the best.
I am just 'pissing in the wind (if such a saying). That is what it feels like, in trying to get my daughter needs meet.
She speaks well and she looks normal. The rest comes down to her attitude and own self motivation or discipline and people don't seem to see beyond that! or some other stupid reason why she is having problems. Anything than to accept maybe it is because she is mildly to moderately autistic. Believe me, many times I have felt infuriated.

I just hope my daughter doesnt become to behave as badly as I did at school - Junior high, i had serious behavioural problems so they said and why - because I was misunderstood. When I did try I was always getting in trouble for being slack or not listening. My self esteem was really low as it was. So many times teachers made me cry or I remember it was so hard not to. I ended up being the nastiest girl in the school. No one got on the wrong side of me, not the other students. Only lectured and suspended and in school suspension by the teachers alot of the time because they was idiots! They didnt give me a chance. Because i had a child young the other kids didn't treat me as equal. The boys treated me like i was slut or tried to. I was often getting in fights with the other girls. Stuck up b*****s from their privledge homes and was always the teachers pet. It made me sick!

I'm sure alot of other parents have the same or similar frustrations to deal with but emtionally i really don't handle it that well. i get in trouble for being aggressive. I might not use as stupid and as educated words like the teachers do but I am AS. I understand my daughter more than anyone or they'd have a hope of ever coming close to :x It makes me feel so angry.


This is true exactly what they said (in round about words); They didn't feel the classroom work was too difficult for her. Alot of the time she wouldn't do the work, they said and they also expressed that they didn't believe it was apart of having AS. That it was more to do with her attitude. The staff teacher who was in charge of the gifted programming said she believes that, "she has been using AS as an excuse for too long and of getting away with things." As they said, "she can do the work" and they was frustrated she wouldn't.

So called educated_tchrs Most of them are an ignorant bunch of f*****s. They are as dumb as all s**t and I have to stay way from her schools because I get so frustrated. You don't understand my point of view! Let me say it again and again This way!...
THIS TIME YOU UNDERSTANDING ME :evil: i make sure they do and if they get annoyed or angry. I get even more. Don't be an ignorant f****r when it comes to me and my daughter. I am not stupid fuckwitted parent so Get off ur high horse and LISTEN

^ So you see where my attitude gets me. I try and try and so nice at first. Then just stay away from me. That's how i feel. I can't stand when some one talks like they know my child more than me. They are the biggest JERK OFFs on the planet.



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28 Dec 2008, 11:35 pm

I had a IEP. It did not help though. Knowledge about how to treat kids with AS was in it's infancy. My teachers were b*****s always on an ego trip. Best thing that worked for me was my parents taking me out to homeschool me.


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29 Dec 2008, 11:19 am

That is why my daughter is in foster care because most teachers both male and female staff are being stupid b*****s. They don't understand or tolerate a child with AS. They just make them worse with their 'know all' attitude. They should just listen to parents in the first place. They don't even take note of specialist reports or advice.

Some teachers try their best and they care but it is still not good enough.
Teachers seem overwhelmed to me. Like they cannot give a AS child individual attention they sometimes need. When they got 30 other children to teach.

I remember one teacher so bossy with my daughter. Thinking she was really naughty. The louder the teacher spoke and more discipline they think they need to show - It just makes her worse. That is what her teacher realised and said, "there is no point shouting or raising your voice towards her at all."
She also expressed she found it difficult to talk in a soft voice, as like she noticed I speak to her. "She needs some one who can come into the classroom to speak to her in a different way of that she couldnt," she said. Seems alot of teachers are loud and AS children don't cope well with bombastic Teachers.
You are much more likely to get her attention by speaking clearly and in a calm tone.

It is very important that she knows prior to any changes being made. She does so much better with Teachers that are organised, very structured with routines and consistent with rules.

Toward the end of the year her teacher realised that alot of times when she thought my daughter was just being naughty.
She really wasnt. Nice to know but the year is about over, it is too late or not much point in understanding her now, I think. Then a new year begins. A new teacher and the same process, same ignorance and misunderstanding all over again.. With dire consequences.

I can't cope with her at home when her anxiety is sky high because of school. She runaways home. Meltdowns she has is extreme and makes her very tired.

At school the other children get annoyed with repetitive and restless movements she makes. They can't concentrate on their school work. One year she had to sit away for a whole year from the other children. Mostly, I been told that she paces. Like walking back and forth or if she can't do that just around and round a table. She does this when all the other children are sitting down.

Sometimes she has refused to go into a class and runs away to the office crying. No one doesnt even take notice cause she will not speak at all when she is that upset. She freezes.

When she refuses to go to school altogether. I can't cope. It is not good at all. We need space from each other. Time out alot. When she is living with me that doesnt happen. Maybe because we clash. She hates me and I end up feeling like I can't stand being around her.

I love her much more or can show it, when I don't see her so much and she is a much nicer girl. She say's every day or time I see her "I love you, mom" and that is special. It means alot to just be able to get along. :thumleft: