Whatever happened to Dungeons and Dragons?

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20 Mar 2015, 10:56 am

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Other than combat, the DM could setup situations that require cunning to overcome. Also he could make it like a roguelike where there are situations that require careful actions and planning. In my pessimistic mind Im thinking that it is just mostly combat.

Set the game in a magical realm similar to 14th-century Florence (Tuscany), with the players going up against the political manipulations of the House of Medici, the Tradesmen's Guilds, the banking system, slavers, a corrupt Church, and an occasional mad wizard or two.

And then watch some card-slapping munchkin insist on playing a cyborg ... :roll:

that sounds.....AWESOME

Most RPG campaigns that you buy in the shops just have a conspiracy story that is window dressing for a bunch of combat in a dungeon,

In D&D the dungeon could be catacombs an actual dungeon or a wizards castle.
In more modern RPGs the dungeon is usually the sewers or a corporate office.

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20 Mar 2015, 11:09 am

slenkar wrote:

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that sounds.....AWESOME ...

It was! I had a great group of players: a nurse, a physicist, a tow-truck driver, a defrocked pastor, and a librarian formed my core group, with a variety of others coming in for a few sessions and then starting campaigns of their own.

Then players got married, got new jobs or transfers, got divorced, and moved away. Now all I have left is a 2-inch thick file folder of maps, notes, and sub-plots that we never finished playing through.

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20 Mar 2015, 12:39 pm

How do think i feel? At least most of you got to live in a time when pen and papers where popular. My brothers tried to raise me to get into them, but none of my friends ever got into the sessions, and card games where just starting as a major trend. I played DnD a few times cause it's a good starter RPG, but my brothers and I also had the guides for: Macross II, The Deadlands, Warhammer 40k, and we briefly borrowed a friend's original second edition Star Wars: The Roleplaying game guide. After I moved to a new middle school my interest in actually playing the RPG's waned, but I still read the guides for most of them. A few game clubs started at my college but I couldn't attend the meetings, cause most where held in a town 45 miles away, and I still don't have a car. Sadly I only have two guides left, Macross II, and my Tau guide for Warhammer 40k. If I can ever find the time I want to get some people into Macross II, cause of it's unique and complex method of Role playing.

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20 Mar 2015, 2:42 pm

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Speaking of which, is there a cheaper/easier way to play 40k, like with papercraft versions of the miniatures?

The only way I've seen to play it so far that isnt freakishly expensive is a program that can be found online, designed entirely to allow you to play any sort of miniatures game over the Net with friends. I dont remember what it's called, but it's easy to find as is the modules for 40k.

Of course, that's probably not what you're looking for.... if there's a way to play the physical game that ISNT hyper expensive, I've never heard of it. Games Workshop is infamous for their amazingly bloated prices. You can at least get the rulebooks online in PDF form, which can be useful if you have like, a tablet to easily access them. Other than that though..... everything is hyper pricey. If you want to play it with makeshift figures and board and such.... you'll have to make it yourself, most likely.

Damn shame, too. I think there's alot of people that WOULD get into 40k, with it being such a very deep game with tons of lore and such backing it up, but it's just too expensive for most. Heck, most of my friends would probably play that one, but I'm the only one that could afford to, so it doesnt happen. Yet another one of these sorts of things I cant play, bah.

I played 40K once and I found it to be quite enjoyable, though afterwards I tried building a small army for it, and I just didn't have the patience or fine motor skills to do it. They charge such a stupid amount of money for what probably amounts to a few cents worth of plastic, then they try to sell you all sorts of other crap. I know a lot of people like painting and building the miniatures, but I just want to skip all that crap and play the frickin game.

If the miniatures came pre-assembled, and cost about the same as Magic cards, I would totally have a collection. Now, I know that some Magic cards can be ludicrously expensive, but in comparison, it's a much, much cheaper game to play, particularly if you're just playing casual so you don't have to worry about keeping up with the current allowed sets for Type 2.

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20 Mar 2015, 3:45 pm

I've started a related thread: "TTRPG Roll Call!", for the expressed purpose of getting WP members together to play Table-Top Role-Playing Games.

No saving throw required.

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20 Mar 2015, 3:57 pm

Misery wrote:

Something like this?
http://roll20.net/

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20 Mar 2015, 7:44 pm

Adamantium wrote:

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Something like this?
http://roll20.net/

Actually I found the one I was thinking of: http://www.vassalengine.org/index.php

Me and a friend of mine tried this out with a 40k module for it, and it works quite well for that.

Though I will say the Roll20 one looks nice for the RPG sort.... if I ever actually got to freaking play something like D&D yet had to do it online, that looks like it would work quite well.

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20 Mar 2015, 10:46 pm

Fnord wrote:

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that sounds.....AWESOME ...

I always said that traditional marriage is destroying society. It turns cool people boring.

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20 Mar 2015, 11:50 pm

trollcatman wrote:

I always said that traditional marriage is destroying society. It turns cool people boring.

I'll second this one.

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21 Mar 2015, 6:04 am

Misery wrote:

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I always said that traditional marriage is destroying society. It turns cool people boring.

I'll second this one.

Thirded. Plus, I don't even think people born past my grandparent's generation are even capable of maintaining good marriages without eventually divorcing. Marriage is truly a relic of times past, and I don't see why people even try to bother with it nowadays.

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21 Mar 2015, 6:44 am

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

Competitive D&D? O_o How does that work?

Well, I don't know exactly, because I've always just assumed that it's exactly what it sounds like, but if you're interested in learning more, there are modules out there specifically written for tournaments that you could probably *cough cough* find PFDs of if you wanted to flip through.

What little of it I know, is that TSR had a club you could join (they had ads in the backs of the books, and probably in Dragon magazine too), and it sounds to me like it was kind of like the Boy Scouts...your DM would run his own games, and would make sure that everyone was following the proper rules, and then there would be bigger meetings where different groups would get together to play.

Actually, I found it, in the back of the AD&D 2nd Edition PHB, let me just quote it directly:

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Playing the AD&D game, playing any role-playing game, isn't enough anymore. To get the most out of your gaming hobby, join the RPGA Network, an international organization of role-playing game enthusiasts.
All members receive a special introductory kit and the award-winning, bimonthly POLYHEDRON Newszine. The Newszine is packed with gaming advice, news about the industry, and features for a variety of role-playing games, including the AD&D game and AD&D 2nd Edition game. In addition, there is an exciting adventure in every issue.
Through the POLYHEDRON Newszine and the RPGA Network, members learn how to contact other gamers, form gaming clubs, and improve their playing techniques.
The Network features an international ranking system for players and judges who compete in top-notch gaming tournaments at conventions throughout the world.
The Network also offers a club program where gaming groups can take part in hobby-related competitions.
Playing the game just isn't enough anymore. Discover that there is more to the role-playing hobby than just the rule books.
Discover the adventure in the RPGA Network.
To request a membership form, contact:
RPGA Network
P.O. Box 515
Lake Geneva, WI 53147
USA

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21 Mar 2015, 6:55 am

Also, this Wikipedia article goes into some detail about the tournaments, under the "Mission" section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPGA

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21 Mar 2015, 7:38 am

....what? This RPGA thing is based in Lake Geneva, in Wisconsin? ...what?

That stupid town has STUFF in it? Coulda fooled me on that one...

I know there used to be almost a comic-book shop there sorta, but that went down years ago. Along with basically everything else that isnt a clothing or souvenir store, or a weird little cafe or something.

And stoplights. There's alot of stoplights.

Now I'm almost tempted to go there and see if something INTERESTING may have appeared.

Though, maybe this RPGA thing just *used* to be there?

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21 Mar 2015, 8:19 am

I love d&d and MTG, maybe more so mtg. I had to give my card collection to my best friend because I had no one to play it with and got a Job working 3:00 pm to 11:00 pm 7 days a week.
But hopefully in the future I will have enough time to build that shaman (mtg creature type) deck.
I was going to build one and declare myself shaman king, but I had other thing to do.

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21 Mar 2015, 8:33 am

Misery wrote:

....what? This RPGA thing is based in Lake Geneva, in Wisconsin? ... Though, maybe this RPGA thing just *used* to be there?

RPGA as a freewheeling funtime group has pretty much died, along with TSR, Dave Arneson, and Gary Gygax.

Even though it still exists as "... part of the organized play arm of Wizards of the Coast that organizes and sanctions role-playing games worldwide ...", it just another one of many bureaux under the Hasbro banner.

It tends to promote the d20 system over any other, and is not exactly the customer-friendly organization it once was under Frank Mentzer; but that's what happens when gamer geeks get replaced by cubicle monkeys.

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22 Mar 2015, 3:26 am

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Now I'm almost tempted to go there and see if something INTERESTING may have appeared.

Last I heard, they were raising funds to build a memorial statue for some guy named Gary Gygax who used to live there and had started some company there called TSR and something called GenCon...Idunno, man... :oops:

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