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02 Jun 2016, 4:17 pm

Kirby (from the videogame francise) has nearly nonverbal kanner autism and has great difficulty communicating as he can't talk, but has amazing copy ability superpower

you can see so in the episodes of the anime Hoshi No Kabii

personaly, :heart: how do you think he is autistic?

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he is very smart and interacts and communicates better with animals :heart: he isn't dumb!

KIRBY HAS A BEATING HEART INSIDE HIM :heart:


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02 Jun 2016, 5:37 pm

Has the creator of Kirby (or anyone that has worked on the games in general) actually said he has autism?

I really don't know why we must assume "different = autism" especially in video game characters. This reminds me of a post before (I dont think its active anymore), where people just randomly guessed at what fictional characters were autistic. Video game characters are meant to be weird but it really doesn't instantly mean they have autism. I think unless it's officially said- we shouldn't just jump to conclusions here.

I like some Kirby games because they are fun, I don't need to have him being autistic to "relate to him" or say "Oh I got something in common with a video game character, isnt that cool?!" or whatever..

Not trying to sound rude here, just realistic.



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02 Jun 2016, 6:47 pm

In the cartoon he's portrayed as a baby which is why he can't speak.


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02 Jun 2016, 7:18 pm

a) Fictional characters are not real.
b) Kirby is a fictional character.
: : Kirby is not real.

a) Autism is real.
b) Real people have autism.
: : Autism is a real condition had by real people.

a) Kirby is not real.
b) Autism is a real condition had by real people.
: : Kirby does not have autism.

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03 Jun 2016, 7:35 pm

Fnord wrote:
a) Fictional characters are not real.
b) Kirby is a fictional character.
: : Kirby is not real.

a) Autism is real.
b) Real people have autism.
: : Autism is a real condition had by real people.

a) Kirby is not real.
b) Autism is a real condition had by real people.
: : Kirby does not have autism.

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I've actually used proofs to express ideas in the past myself. But yes, THIS!



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04 Jun 2016, 5:13 pm

Earthbound wrote:
Has the creator of Kirby (or anyone that has worked on the games in general) actually said he has autism?

I really don't know why we must assume "different = autism" especially in video game characters. This reminds me of a post before (I dont think its active anymore), where people just randomly guessed at what fictional characters were autistic. Video game characters are meant to be weird but it really doesn't instantly mean they have autism. I think unless it's officially said- we shouldn't just jump to conclusions here.

I like some Kirby games because they are fun, I don't need to have him being autistic to "relate to him" or say "Oh I got something in common with a video game character, isnt that cool?!" or whatever..

Not trying to sound rude here, just realistic.


Masahiro Sakurai never said anything about Kirby being autistic, but he chose for Kirby not to speak.

You can always headcannon characters as being autistic, honey :colors: :colors: :heart: :heart: :shaking2: :shaking2: :compress: i love autistic headcannons


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04 Jun 2016, 5:32 pm

Fnord wrote:
a) Fictional characters are not real.
b) Kirby is a fictional character.
: : Kirby is not real.

a) Autism is real.
b) Real people have autism.
: : Autism is a real condition had by real people.

a) Kirby is not real.
b) Autism is a real condition had by real people.
: : Kirby does not have autism.

QED


That is not how you logic. A->B does not imply B->A. Real people having autism does not exclude fictional characters from having autism.


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04 Jun 2016, 6:14 pm

How does anyone know what is real or not? I think that all the proof in the world can't prove what is real and what is not. It is all a matter of perception and how each person views the world differently. For all we know, the world that we live in could be fictional. 8) I often get tired of people saying 'THIS is how it is, and there can be no other way than how I see the world'. :roll: :wall:


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04 Jun 2016, 9:38 pm

Kirby is totally autistic because he is very talented despite being immature.

I love these threads! :mrgreen:


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04 Jun 2016, 9:52 pm

Ganondox wrote:
Fnord wrote:
a) Fictional characters are not real.
b) Kirby is a fictional character.
: : Kirby is not real.

a) Autism is real.
b) Real people have autism.
: : Autism is a real condition had by real people.

a) Kirby is not real.
b) Autism is a real condition had by real people.
: : Kirby does not have autism.

QED
That is not how you logic. A->B does not imply B->A. Real people having autism does not exclude fictional characters from having autism.
Fictional characters can only simulate autism ... you know ... the same way that poseurs do ...


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04 Jun 2016, 9:57 pm

Fnord wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
Fnord wrote:
a) Fictional characters are not real.
b) Kirby is a fictional character.
: : Kirby is not real.

a) Autism is real.
b) Real people have autism.
: : Autism is a real condition had by real people.

a) Kirby is not real.
b) Autism is a real condition had by real people.
: : Kirby does not have autism.

QED
That is not how you logic. A->B does not imply B->A. Real people having autism does not exclude fictional characters from having autism.
Fictional characters can only simulate autism ... you know ... the same way that poseurs do ...


Semantics. Or what I'm calling semantics anyway. It *really* doesnt matter to pretty much any fan of... anything.



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04 Jun 2016, 10:12 pm

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04 Jun 2016, 10:29 pm

It's taking things too literally to say a fictional character can't have a real condition.

If a fictional character has red itchy spots,that go away after a month then the its safe to say he has measles or some other condition even though it's impossible for a fictional character to have real measles!

And nothing is going to be harmed if someone wants to fantasize in public about a character having autism.



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05 Jun 2016, 8:37 am

slenkar wrote:
It's taking things too literally to say a fictional character can't have a real condition.
There is no such thing as taking things too literally. There is such a thing as anthropomorphizing fictional characters too much.
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If a fictional character has red itchy spots,that go away after a month then the its safe to say he has measles or some other condition even though it's impossible for a fictional character to have real measles!
A fictional character is a simulation. A simulation can only simulate an illness. In other words, a fake person is faking it.
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And nothing is going to be harmed if someone wants to fantasize in public about a character having autism.
Yeah, all that fanfic out there that features copyrighted characters having all sorts of non-canonical ailments, fetishes, backstories and relationships is not harmful at all ... :roll:


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05 Jun 2016, 8:49 am

Fnord wrote:
There is no such thing as taking things too literally. There is such a thing as anthropomorphizing fictional characters too much.


There is, though. As you should probably be able to see here, all it does is bother everyone and suck all the fun out of things. If people want to take things really seriously, they wont be watching/playing/reading fictional things. But otherwise? They can do what they want. Best to just leave it be.


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Yeah, all that fanfic out there that features copyrighted characters having all sorts of non-canonical ailments, fetishes, backstories and relationships is not harmful at all ... :roll:


Technically... no.... it isnt harmful... it's not like your ears start bleeding if you read something like that.



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05 Jun 2016, 10:14 am

Misery wrote:
Fnord wrote:
There is no such thing as taking things too literally. There is such a thing as anthropomorphizing fictional characters too much.
There is, though. As you should probably be able to see here, all it does is bother everyone and suck all the fun out of things. If people want to take things really seriously, they wont be watching/playing/reading fictional things. But otherwise? They can do what they want. Best to just leave it be.
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Yeah, all that fanfic out there that features copyrighted characters having all sorts of non-canonical ailments, fetishes, backstories and relationships is not harmful at all ... :roll:
Technically... no.... it isnt harmful... it's not like your ears start bleeding if you read something like that.
No, but my eyes start to burn and lose focus ... :wink:


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