Borderlands, the new diablo 2.

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Its not a bad game, its just that is was a obvious console port. Online is none existent as port forwarding is required (manually), the matchmaking is random which results in horrible performance, microphone is automatic and not key bound, the driving is ret*d, the loot card only displays 5 lines instead of the actual 6 lines, the game came out for the console first while those of us who ordered over steam got to watch the countdown hit zero then reset to another week of waiting. And get this, the people who pirated the game were already playing online on the PC before paying customers. Not to mention half of the skills are broken, guess who got the first and only patch? Consoles.

Playing it, enjoying it. The UI isn't very good though. Guess that's the consolitis.

I liked it but it's definitely a multi-player game, it just feels so empty.

I have played diablo 2, and I have played Borderlands. I am happy to say that Borderlands is not the new Diablo 2, as if it was it would have awfull graphics, be very very repetitive, and only have about 30 quests. I love borderlands... there's so many guns!! !! !

I meant it for the sandboxish multiplayer feeling without being too impersonal like an MMO you could only really get in diablo 2 before

I never understood why the Diablo games were so popular. But then I like Angband. ^^

I'm fighting the temptation to make a list of the different gun manufacturers / gun mods in Borderlands. They are kinda neat, and I'm not a "wow, guns! drool" person usually. (Yeah, I know somewhere online there will be an exhaustive list that's nice but it's not what I'm after! )

You only need to know two.

Jakobs and Maliwan.

Maliwan corrosive x4 mods + Jakobs for straight damage when you don't need corrosive.

I'm trying to figure out the way the gun names and looks are generated more than anything. Just finished the game, my weapon of choice at the end was (of all things) an S&S machinegun, no elemental stuff at all but high damage and huge ammo capacity, very effective at Jakob's Cove. (hmm - is it Jakobs' Cove - it should be? can't remember)

All in all I really, really like Borderlands. The cartoon graphics are very nice, the story was pretty simple but that's no bother and there were lots of reasonably entertaining things to do, and shooting the crêpe out of the wildlife was fun. Also lots of references to enjoy (and why were the crimson doodah guys wearing Mark 7 helmets? ) and should be plenty of potential for replay with different characters. Definitely the best game I've bought recently. I wish Fallen Earth was more like it!

Something you may not have noticed, there is an unofficial playthrough three...

You will have noticed all the monsters are level 52 now, but ALSO all the old bosses have respawned at lvl 52 with levl 50 versions of their weapons

Crimson fastness claptrap door is a quick place to loot, reload game, loot, reload game ad infinitum for getting lvl 50 orange and yellow weapons.

My favourite reference was the diablo 2 reference, the "raakanishu" unique raak that drops "cracked sash". lol.

Teehee. Just worked out the binary on the Eridian gun. I'm a geek...

I really want to get this game because I like some first person shooters and absolutely love role playing games.

Actually... Diablo 1 and 2 were made by Blizzard North, a subsidary company of Blizzard and a lot of the teammembers that left when Blizzard North was shut down did go to Runic Games as well as some of them went to the studio that made Hellgate: London. Others stayed with the main Blizzard Entertainment.

All-in-all I liked Borderlands. The obvious console port was somewhat annoying, by it's possible to keybind everything in a way that makes control easy, and you can shut off the team chatter and microphone in the options fairly easily.

Honestly, the most annoying thing was how easy it was if you got a lucky low level legendary gun. I played through on a Siren and got a Hellfire SMG at lv 19 that just RAPED everything that moved until playthrough 2. Of course then I picked up a Volcano sniper with the Wrath of Pele text that further raped.

Seeing the game it looked kind of interesting. Hearing "console port" pretty much ruined any desire I had. PCs can do so much more than consoles, any console port is going to be sub par to anything made for PC. No push to talk functionality for voice chat on PC is just ret*d or lazy.

Well, you have to remember that the vast majority of PC gamers use ventrilo, or to a lesser degree, teamspeak. So, in game chat programs don't get used very often. I remember Blizzard spending months and an entire content patch on in-game voice chat and half the players don't even know it's there, and the other half were pissed they spent an entire content patch doing it.

Right now, there isn't a single game out there with voice chat even mildly comparable to ventrilo. It uses an incredibly small amount of bandwidth, has the best quality there is, is free, unless you own the server, and extremely easy to use with tons of customizing. It really does just blow every other voice program out of the water. Every phone and cellphone too for that matter.

I haven't ever heard of it before. I have heard of teamspeak though. I remember when I joined a Star Wars Republic Commando clan and they wanted me to use it. I tried to, but I couldn't get talk, I just couldn't physically talk to the people.

So I pretended my equipment was broken and went back to typing my messages...

In regards to the actual thread, I haven't played the game, nor will I ever, as i don't buy new games much as they're almost all shooters, but I would have thought that Diablo 3 was the new Diablo 2...

It doesn't concern me much, the only game I need is linked to my avatar, but I highly doubt anybody will remember/have seen that symbol before.