Gamergate claims another victiim:Nintendo fires Alison Rapp

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Well, like I said, both sides can be equally vitriolic and mean really, and as it's basically an angry mob on the Net... one way or another, it's not to be trusted. Wouldnt trust it any further than I could throw the planet Jupiter. Which isnt very far. That goes for both sides really.

I mostly just want them all to shut up and stop being annoying, before someone really does get hurt. That wouldnt be a winning situation for anyone at all.

Agreed. I want both SJWs and the GG side to both shut the f**k up (to put it bluntly), have no censorship in games and no outrage over games. Then, I'll be happy with gaming media.

Though it seems that won't happen with today's culture. At least at the end of the day I can unplug from the internet and just enjoy my games without someone judging me for liking them. I'm a gamer, and I don't care if people dislike that term.

Isn't that what the pro-GamerGaters do? They find something/someone they don't like, and then they go out of their way to find outrage and complain about any supposed censorship regardless of why, and then brand people they don't agree with as "SJW"? And they go out to ruin lives.


Funny, because apparently Alison was actually of the opinion that things like the "boob slider" should have been included in Western releases of a game that had it removed (link). Even the thing that seems most targeted at her seems ironic in that the paper she did where she supposedly defends paedophiles was actually a paper talking about how the West does not deserve the right to tell Japan whether they are right or wrong on their culture, and effectively arguing with keeping an understanding of cultural significance of parts of games. That is what people should argue for when they don't want things changed or removed in translation.

This whole situation feels like people being a jackass of something petty like a comment they did not like, and not in thinking the other person as a person, decide to try and ruin their life. It is total hypocrisy. And it seems to keep targeting women. It is not making the people causing it any more manly rather than at the least making them look misogynistic.

I think its just pathetic how many gamers (not just GamerGate people) can defend fictional women in video games, yet they constantly act real life women. Example: a woman character in a game gets changed, they whine. But they think its somehow alright to attack a feminist, SJW or anyone they don't like. It's a bit sick. These people arent adults, they are childish whiners that can't handle people they disagree with.

I honestly wish some of these people would get the help they deserve. Their obsession over people they disagree with isnt healthy. No one (man or woman) should have to be harassed, stalked, doxxed or forced to hide over online idiots.. period. I hope laws against this online harassment actually happens one day.

It works both ways. SJW extremists do the same crap GG extremists do. The problem with online harassment is that some people take the feeling of "This person disagrees with me, so they are harassing me" as actual harassment, instead of actual harassment. The SJW camp falls prey to this, as if you don't agree with the commie red train of thought, you're automatically *-phobic and so forth.

And you're confusing internet armchair SJWs (who sit online all day and b***h about mundane crap) with GG which does not want censorship. SJW's are more preoccupied if a female character has cleavage showing or if there enough diverse characters than actual real world stuff.

Also, feminism = a train of thought that can be criticized. I am pro-women and not a feminist. I am an egalitarian (90% of the time) and believe in a meritocracy.

The tread title seems incorrect, what victims of gg are there?

Adria Richards (after she turned someone else's private conversation into unemployment)
Or Quinn who was a little too involved with the people reviewing her games.

Rapp is the first victim who seems to have done nothing wrong except have opinions that are unpopular.

She was fired for having a second job.

I don't know if her being a pedo-apologist was part of the reason either. She was terrible at PR, it's not like she actually did anything. Making fun of your customers is always a good idea to get more sales (that was a joke)

Is there an archive somewhere of her 'greatest hits' or do you just look through all of her tweets?

Kotaku and others have posted the most "meaningful" tweets and stuff she posted online.
But You'd have to search it all out.

Kotaku is not a valid source. Parent company is Gawker, null and void. Clickbait and outrage BS to the max from there.

There are archive links on KotakuinAction on reddit, plus with people responding to "journalists" with links of what she has said. Thing is, you can delete what you've said, but if it's archived, it's there forever. You cannot cover your tracks.

IGN is owned by News Corp the company that owns Fox News Network (as of 2004)
Wall Street Journal was also bought by News Corp a few years ago as well.
Gamespot is owned by CBS
Eurogamer.net, USGamer.net, Gamesindustry.biz are all owned by Gamers Network
The recently defunct GameTrailers (shut down three weeks ago) is owned by Defy Media the same company that owns The Escapist and Chickipeida
GameInformer was bought out by Gamestop a few years back.

There is no major gaming media outlet that is independent anymore.

The mainstream media doesn't care about this yet because there are better stories to cover.

Kotaku operates independently of their owners and is currently does the best journalism and exposes in the industry.

Kotaku's main staff is also long standing members of NeoGaf forum (the site that is at the center of gaming culture and universe).
They worked with NeoGaf on writing this article and NeoGaf asked them to post it.

The other sites and outlets were reluctant to post the story over the fear of being targeted and/or blacklisted by the industry.

Why would the games industry be angry at a website for reporting on a woman getting fired due to Twitter users?

And that was worth harassment?

The gaming industry isn't angry, they just don't want to inflame any group or groups that will come after them.

People in the gaming industry are being cowards, and its many of the harassers/messed up people in GamerGate that did this. Freedom of speech should be expressed, period. There is a fine line between freedom of speech and cyberbullying though. Many of the people in GamerGate harass women, SJW and generally anyone they don't agree with. IMO, sites like Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, YouTube (and so on) need better ban policies. They can suspend accounts all they want- but many of these people just go and make new names.

But on the flipside- many of the people getting attacked have overreacted to ANY criticism. The women tropes in games series isnt perfect and has its flaws, but Anita just blocks anyone that says reasonable complaints about it. I do realize its a person's right to block who they want, but overreacting to stuff.. kind of proves that the trolls and cyberbullies win. The right way to do things- is discuss things in a civil manner instead of just attacking, doxxing, harassing, etc.

I honestly think its time for harsher internet cyberbullying laws. There also needs to be some lawsuits against these whiny brats that take gaming too seriously. Also I want to point out- there really does need to more ethics in journalism when it comes to gaming. So many people get free copies to review a game but don't disclose that. The bribing of people in the industry needs to end. It's not hard to ask for a more non-corrupt system.

Hell.. I think if I had my way, more people wouldn't be getting free copies of games to review. It's a form of a begging and is rarely justified in my view. Big name YouTubers (the ones that make $100,000 and up) arent hurting for cash, why in the world are they still getting free games? They get a game- play it for a few hours, do a review then likely never play it again. I do realize its their "job" to review a game, but it seems suspicious if they never play it again. Many many games can't be judged by a few hours of gameplay, so these inaccurate reviews shouldn't be acknowledged. People that are for YouTubers getting free games tend to use the excuse of "there's so many games, they can't afford to simply buy them all". Well if they can't afford it- they shouldn't be a reviewer, period. I'm sure they could easily make money some other way on YouTube without having to get every new release for free.

There are two reactions to the corruption in games journalism, the primal bullying harassers and the person who uses logic to point out corruption.

I'd like it if everyone was logical and controlled themselves, the bullies just harm the movement.

A lot of people are suspicious that certain public figures harass themselves with sock puppets and use that to get money from supporters.