Video games no longer appealing?

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12 Nov 2016, 7:08 pm

Weeks ago I installed Warframe again. It is fun in small doses, but the really good stuff is either behind a pay-wall or requires a lengthy, RNG-based grind.

I got suspended from World of Warcraft in a recent banwave. Account in question won't be playable until May 2018, no doubt when their next expansion is out. At this point though I don't give a rats anymore. As I've said though, YouTube will be my source to view the awesome cinematics (seriously they should make a movie that's just CGI).

MOBAs? LoL is meh and DotA 2 is industrial-grade toxic!

Path of Exile? Gave it a go for about an hour. Didn't feel "into it".

I've considered buying an XB1-S or PS4 Pro (or wait for Xbox Scorpio in 2017). However many games are moving to a non-local multiplayer format, so that'd defeat the purpose of couch-gaming with mates. Split-screen in games like CoD is awful.

Well damn, maybe games do suck nowadays.

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12 Nov 2016, 11:27 pm

dan_aspie wrote:

It sounds like you've only tried the biggest ones though. Honestly, you're not going to get a different experience unless you try something that's actually different to begin with.

One problem though is that it sounds like what you're mostly into is multiplayer games (as every single one of those is multiplayer, with Exile being the only one not entirely focused on it)... and the problem with MULTIPLAYER games is that, well... you know how it is. They're all toxic as hell. ALL of them. I know people use Dota as the example, but no, it really is every single one of them. And the experience on consoles specifically is getting worse and worse (as you've said, most multiplayer games no longer support local play on consoles).

Try out something that's genuinely different. Steam alone has THOUSANDS of games. Thousands. It's damn near impossible to NOT find something on there.

Like I said, you'll not get an experience that's different without trying something that's also different. It's like getting tired of things that are cheese flavored, and then going and eating an entire block of slightly different cheese and expecting it to taste like chocolate. Things just dont work that way.

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I think I used this example before but it still works- this is kind of similar to the people that bash movies they havent even seen!

You seem to have this bizarre assumption that the people doing the complaining have NEVER, ever ever ever played the games they are in fact complaining about.

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13 Nov 2016, 6:18 am

@ Misery: I'm trying out Dying Light. It's a zombie-survival game on PC with a unique day-night cycle. Fairly-safe at day, definitely-NOT safe at night! Could be fun.

I have my own conceptual ideas for games.

- a space sim (No Man's Sky if it didn't suck + The Solus Project mixed with Halo/GoW combat mechanics).
- a single-player RPG with humans as the bad guys and techno-magic-wielding humanoid animals as the good guys.
- a MOBA in the style of Planetside 2 (huge teams vying for territory) with a HUGE character roster.
- a zombie-shooter that combines several elements of other FPS games (CoD: Zombies, L4D2, CS:GO, Unreal Tournament).

While they wouldn't technically be original ideas, they would be inspired by other well-known titles and would hopefully achieve their own fame in time.

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13 Nov 2016, 6:36 am

Dying Light is one of the few recent games that I actually enjoyed. My only complaint are the people that don't turn off their online multiplayer option or forget to set it to friends only and then get mad at you for joining. Last time I tried it was hard to find anyone to play with and nobody I know is playing it anymore. It is fun to play solo but it is much better with others.

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13 Nov 2016, 11:02 am

I have a love-hate relationship with video games. A good game can be immensely entertaining, but I've also found video games can be incredibly demanding and frustrating, and dealing with other gamers can be a major pain in the ass. It just so happens to be one of the few things I can connect with people over, and it's unfortunate because 95% of the time I never actually feel like playing anything. Before I was ~12 I loved gaming and I was quite dedicated to it, but ever since then I just haven't really had the drive to do it as often, and my patience for it has only been getting worse and worse. Shame, because I know a lot about gaming culture, and I find its history to be fascinating.

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13 Nov 2016, 5:22 pm

noumenon wrote:

Dying Light...It is fun to play solo but it is much better with others.

Maybe I should get Steam to refund me then.

*assumes thinking position*

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13 Nov 2016, 11:27 pm

dan_aspie wrote:

Maybe I should get Steam to refund me then.

*assumes thinking position*

Na, keep it, it is a really good game. I enjoyed it solo, I'm just saying it was even better with others to play with. If I didn't have an acquaintance to play it with I would have played the entire campaign solo and enjoyed it.

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15 Nov 2016, 3:30 am

izzeme wrote:

i have yet to see the first indie with microtransactions.

Those are more than abundant on mobile devices.

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15 Nov 2016, 3:35 am

whatamievendoing wrote:

Those are more than abundant on mobile devices.

Those are scams disguised as games

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15 Nov 2016, 3:48 am

noumenon wrote:

whatamievendoing wrote:

Those are more than abundant on mobile devices.

Those are scams disguised as games

Point taken.

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15 Nov 2016, 8:30 am

I often play Kbounce on my PC (free Jezzball clone) or Bitblocks on my phone (free Tetris clone), but I don't really count these as gaming. I don't remember the last time I played a "real" game.

Say, I wonder if there's a way to play Bitblocks on PC. As far as Android apps go it's really simple and minimalist, yet it also happens to be one of the best Tetris clones I've ever played.

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12 Dec 2016, 12:02 pm

Misery wrote:

whatamievendoing wrote:

There's no denying that today's video game industry is full of bad business practices and dangerous elitism, but I don't let it affect my enjoyment of video games.

The problem is that those things actually affect the development of new games.

If anyone wonders why major games are so uncreative and have so many problems that repeat over and over and over and over, THAT is why. Publishers get more and more lazy, more and more greedy, and when they have direct control over developers (which is always) this means that development is altered.

The worse those business practices get (and they'll never, ever get better, ONLY worse) the worse this will get overall.

Honestly? There's one very, very specific thing I'd REALLY love to see at this point: An industry crash. Like the crash of '83. A *big* one. Preferrably big enough to result in the total downfall of some of the big publishers like EA and Activision.

Which all may sound like a very destructive solution, but back in '83, the problems were very similar... and only massive damage to basically everything finally got idiots to stop being freaking idiots. Big companies only change when absolutely forced. Usually by reaching near destruction, and watching the annihilation of other groups at a similar level. That level of shock, as in, a major threat to the very existence of the jobs held by the higher-ups, is the only thing that ever seems to work. They're lazy and greedy as all hell... but they sure do care about themselves, after all.

At the rate things are going, another crash might be inevitable. People seem to be getting more and more fed up with things, faster and faster now, as I did. Even friends of mine, who are just about the most stereotypical gamers you'd ever meet, are starting to get tired of this crap, buying less and less games because new ones tend to suck. It's bloody sad. And *nobody* likes or trusts the big publishers now. Nobody. EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Capcom... the list goes on. All are hated, none are liked, without exception. And the hate just grows and grows. And the games they put out just get worse and worse. Less features, more microtransactions, more money-grabs, more lazy development... and so on.

I dont bother with games from any of those, but it's infuriating to even watch from afar.

I played Destiny for a while they said things we'll never do x we want to make sure not to invalidate your effort. Then a little while later they go back on everything they said, fanboys say all MMO's do the same (hope no one is a Destiny fan if so sorry) but it is not an MMO Destiny even said so. Also I play MMO's and they don't do what Destiny did.
It was an awesome game til they got greedy and the content started to cost more and more for worse quality. It wasn't even about quantity they changed the feel and it just wasn't fun any more, deleted it even though I had 1400 hours in. I do like Elder Scrolls Online though, there does not seem to be any actual pay to win. Sure there are things I don't like and plenty of things in the cash store but so far they have seemed to be balance it well, although the glitches can be frustrating.

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12 Dec 2016, 4:33 pm

I still game, but I feel the top publishers in particular are getting lazy. Instead of developing full sequels they release "game of the year editions" with some extra stuff. I'd rather wait three years for a sequel then a year for the same game at the same price but with minimally "improved" graphics and sound and a "super special exclusive golden sword".

Oh, and microtransactions suck. I paid £40 for this game, I am not going to stuff the devs' wallets with more even if it leads to 100% completion.

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