What is your piece of the triforce?

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Your triforce piece?
Wisdom 54%  54%  [ 15 ]
Power 18%  18%  [ 5 ]
Courage 29%  29%  [ 8 ]
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04 Jan 2009, 12:57 am

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Now let me tell you how it really works, in my experience no one wants your opinion unless they ask for it so by mustering up the courage to say something the outcome will usually make you wish you had kept quiet. I don't mean to offend you in any way but courage isn't important to me, it seems too reckless. While you may have the courage to rush into battle, if you don't have a plan (wisdom) or any advantage over the enemy (power) then you will be killed.

Well then you and I have had two entirely different experiences in life.

Your battle analogy is similar to the work analogy. If you stand up and say you have an idea and you don't have an idea at all (a plan) or you have no place to talk (power) then that's just stupid.

Going back to the battle analogy, if you have a plan and an advantage but all you do is sit at home and think about it, you'll lose.

So yeah they're all dependent upon one another, but I'd still put courage at the top because even without wisdom or power you still have a chance to win with dumb luck. You have NO chance to succeed if you don't try.

As my dad told many times in sports growing up, "you miss every single shot you don't take"


I'm starting to get into this, alright back to war. In war there are soldiers, infantry, generals, etcetera. While the ones that are physically gifted (power) do the fighting, the ones that create the plans the physically gifted use to fight (wisdom) don't actually have to see combat and therefore do not need couragre. Now here is another situation, one many aspies can probably relate to.
Say a bully is very strong, it doesn't take much courage for him/her to push people around because he is powerful. Now you don't have to have courage to come up with a plan to stop him/her because you don't want to be pushed around, a simple plan would be to tell a teacher because the bully in question probably bullies other people as well so he/she would not know who exactly told the teacher and the bully would be too stupid without wisdom to figure it out.


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04 Jan 2009, 2:07 am

I selected power, because the other two become less necessary if you're already the one in control.

Take the storyline of Twilight Princess (and just about every other Zelda game) for example: it was only with the combined powers of the Triforce of Wisdom, the Triforce of Courage and the Master Sword that Link and Zelda were able to defeat Ganondorf's ultimate power.



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04 Jan 2009, 2:16 am

Sea_of_Saiyan wrote:
I selected power, because the other two become less necessary if you're already the one in control.

Take the storyline of Twilight Princess (and just about every other Zelda game) for example: it was only with the combined powers of the Triforce of Wisdom, the Triforce of Courage and the Master Sword that Link and Zelda were able to defeat Ganondorf's ultimate power.


Yeah but let me throw this at you, if Ganondorf had any courage he would have faced Link the moment Link defied him and the game would have ended almost as soon as it started with Ganondorf most likely winning, not only that but if he had any wisdom he would have known that this strange elf with green clothes would become the hero of time that has defeated every Ganon before himself and again he would have destroyed Link early in the game.


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04 Jan 2009, 2:23 am

If he had courage without power, he would have faced Link without the necessary preparations to defeat him. Link, famous for his luck, would then most likely win.

If he had wisdom without power, he would not pick a fight with Link because he would know that he is not powerful enough to stand up against the master sword. Therefore Link would win.



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04 Jan 2009, 2:38 am

Sea_of_Saiyan wrote:
If he had courage without power, he would have faced Link without the necessary preparations to defeat him. Link, famous for his luck, would then most likely win.

If he had wisdom without power, he would not pick a fight with Link because he would know that he is not powerful enough to stand up against the master sword. Therefore Link would win.


I deal my finishing blow to you my good friend, this debate isn't whether or not one is better than the others it was started because it was said that courage is better than the other two because without it the others are useless. 999,999,999 damage, I win.


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04 Jan 2009, 4:34 am

But what is the use of the others if they dont know when to strike, when to best use what you have for maximum use of resources. Or even what to strike, especialy when you face a bosses, the most important thing is the wisdom in defeating them then excess of the other two.


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04 Jan 2009, 4:37 am

sethzack wrote:
this debate isn't whether or not one is better than the others it was started because it was said that courage is better than the other two

Please don't contradict yourself.

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999,999,999 damage, I win.

And being vindictive helps no one and make you look a fool. Perhaps you should have chosen wisdom.


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04 Jan 2009, 11:25 am

sethzack wrote:
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If he had courage without power, he would have faced Link without the necessary preparations to defeat him. Link, famous for his luck, would then most likely win.

If he had wisdom without power, he would not pick a fight with Link because he would know that he is not powerful enough to stand up against the master sword. Therefore Link would win.


I deal my finishing blow to you my good friend, this debate isn't whether or not one is better than the others it was started because it was said that courage is better than the other two because without it the others are useless. 999,999,999 damage, I win.

You're still arguing with me even though the person you're responding to isn't me. 999,999,999 to yourself :jester:

By the way I moved on because obviously you're very set on your opinion and I have better things to do than to beat my head against a brick wall. Why would you start a poll thread if you have no interest in hearing what people had to say? :shrug:


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04 Jan 2009, 12:18 pm

sethzack wrote:
Sea_of_Saiyan wrote:
I selected power, because the other two become less necessary if you're already the one in control.

Take the storyline of Twilight Princess (and just about every other Zelda game) for example: it was only with the combined powers of the Triforce of Wisdom, the Triforce of Courage and the Master Sword that Link and Zelda were able to defeat Ganondorf's ultimate power.


Yeah but let me throw this at you, if Ganondorf had any courage he would have faced Link the moment Link defied him and the game would have ended almost as soon as it started with Ganondorf most likely winning, not only that but if he had any wisdom he would have known that this strange elf with green clothes would become the hero of time that has defeated every Ganon before himself and again he would have destroyed Link early in the game.


Whether he had wisdom or not, Ganondorf wouldn't be stupid enough to kill Link at the beginning of the game. Otherwise, there would be no game LOL. Ganondorf is actually pretty smart. He knows that if he kills Link, there will be no Zelda series, and he basically dies along with the series. So no, Ganondorf is a smart guy hahaha


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04 Jan 2009, 10:54 pm

I wasn't trying to be mean to anyone, I just wanted a nice debate. I wasn't contradicting myself, I was expressing scenarios. I had some more left in me but I can understand if you want to move on, sorry if I came off as too stubborn. :?


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04 Jan 2009, 11:01 pm

Well wasnt he in Windwaker looking for princess Zelda and kill Link, well once he saw him he did leave him to a non garunteed death, where he would not see the end result, therby redoing the old game order of meeting Ganondorf at the begining, so when he meets him later on you see how much stronger you are. What exactly do the triforces let them do, Zelda's aparently lets her change clothes quickly, and Ganondorfs lets him turn into some big monster, maybe Links just gives him courage that he has a piece of the triforce.


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04 Jan 2009, 11:03 pm

One more thing, Sea of Saiyan is a friend of mine. I wasn't continuing our debate with him I was just playing with him, he didn't mind. We were on MSN at the time.


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