Is The Wii U Overhated/Underrated?
31 Mar 2016, 3:09 pm
Violetvee wrote:
Earthbound wrote:
They can call the games niche all they want. I play whatever games I find fun- same goes for nearly every gamer.
A game doesnt need to be a million copy seller to be good, period. They have nothing better to do so they have to label games as niche, seems so pathetic. Many games that have sold under a million have gotten great sequels as well.
Minecraft was accepted by gamers way before Microsoft bought it. That's what matters in the long run- GAMERS HAVING FUN! Not corporate heads acting snobby, and certainly not people that analyze everything to death. It's unfortunate the industry is full of idiots that need to label stuff, bash indies, comparing useless things to each other and so on.
But its like that everywhere- a movie has a bad weekend and people panic thinking that its a dud. Weeks and months go by- and the movie makes it budget back and then a profit.
I'm generally against the term niche, because its overused, people act like elitists when they spew nonsense about things being niche. Everything realistically doesn't need to be a huge seller! A game can be more than successful without being a huge seller. Word of mouth goes a long way. If elitists and ignorant gamers don't want to leave their comfort zone of only select few games- thats their problem.
Also- I already said Isaac is a solid game. I don't honestly care if stores get it removed. Just whiners overreacting because it doesn't fit into their certain mold of games. As much as I enjoy Nintendo games, the company is pretty dumb at times. Targetting only select age groups needs to stop. Same goes for Sony and Microsoft. Everyone should be a potential buyer of your product, no excuses. If something is too mature (like Isaac or bloody games or violent games or sexualized games), then so be it. There is ratings systems in place for good reason. Unfortunately they arent enforced well. Many kids go into stores and buy M rated games all the time and the cashier doesn't care, because its money. Plus many people have the mindset of "its not my problem, so I'll just ignore it". Online is even worse, seeing as how kids can just "borrow" parents credit card to get games of any rating.
/Rant over for now.
A game doesnt need to be a million copy seller to be good, period. They have nothing better to do so they have to label games as niche, seems so pathetic. Many games that have sold under a million have gotten great sequels as well.
Minecraft was accepted by gamers way before Microsoft bought it. That's what matters in the long run- GAMERS HAVING FUN! Not corporate heads acting snobby, and certainly not people that analyze everything to death. It's unfortunate the industry is full of idiots that need to label stuff, bash indies, comparing useless things to each other and so on.
But its like that everywhere- a movie has a bad weekend and people panic thinking that its a dud. Weeks and months go by- and the movie makes it budget back and then a profit.
I'm generally against the term niche, because its overused, people act like elitists when they spew nonsense about things being niche. Everything realistically doesn't need to be a huge seller! A game can be more than successful without being a huge seller. Word of mouth goes a long way. If elitists and ignorant gamers don't want to leave their comfort zone of only select few games- thats their problem.
Also- I already said Isaac is a solid game. I don't honestly care if stores get it removed. Just whiners overreacting because it doesn't fit into their certain mold of games. As much as I enjoy Nintendo games, the company is pretty dumb at times. Targetting only select age groups needs to stop. Same goes for Sony and Microsoft. Everyone should be a potential buyer of your product, no excuses. If something is too mature (like Isaac or bloody games or violent games or sexualized games), then so be it. There is ratings systems in place for good reason. Unfortunately they arent enforced well. Many kids go into stores and buy M rated games all the time and the cashier doesn't care, because its money. Plus many people have the mindset of "its not my problem, so I'll just ignore it". Online is even worse, seeing as how kids can just "borrow" parents credit card to get games of any rating.
/Rant over for now.
This is why I am so glad my parents actually paid attention to that kind of stuff. Sure, we have some M-rated games now, and we do have a few for our N64, but for the most part I grew up playing games rated no higher than T. Didn't really start buying M rated games again until we got an Xbox 360, and that was after I had left for college. People really should be made more aware of what exactly the ESRB rating entails. If you won't take your 10 year old kid to see an R-rated film like Deadpool, why would you let him play a game like GTA 5, right? People complaining abiut stuff like this in the early 90s when Mortal Kombat came out is why we have the Earb now. Some parents are just stupid.
And the term "niche" can mean different things in different countries when applied to video games. FPS games are pretty popular here in the US, but it's my understanding that such games are considered to be a niche market over in Japan. The reverse can be said about JRPGs.
The dumb bit is, people that sell games are SUPPOSED to make sure parents and such are aware of what's going on in the game. Managers at stores should be seriously pressuring their employees to do this.
I've sold games before at various places, back when I used to work, and making sure that was done was a #1 priority. Particularly as law enforcement in the area (in the middle of bloody nowhere, they dont have much else to do as nothing HAPPENS here) would occaisionally "test" this on various stores, sending some kid in or whatever to buy some M rated game, and if the person at the register DIDNT stop them, well... nasty fine! And chances are, the person at the register in big trouble with their boss.
When I did sales at a Gamestop and later at Toys R Us (you wouldnt think there'd be so many M rated games at THAT store, but you'd be wrong) I *always* made sure to explain, in extreme detail, what was in the game in question, and probably about 70% of the time, the parent had no idea, and sometimes would then snap at their nearby child for lying to them about what was in the game. Followed by the game NOT being bought, and me being highly entertained.
But really, as you say, parents wouldnt let their kids into an R-rated movie, so they shouldnt let them buy M-rated games. But they're lazy, and dont bother doing the research. I mean, really, it's not THAT damn hard. LOOK at the freaking box, that's all they have to do, right? But they dont.
And I do remember the bit when Mortal Kombat came out. People were confused and appalled Though, I grew up with that game, my parents DID examine it but decided I was mature enough for it (which was correct). Been a fan of the series since, though it's had it's ups and downs.
31 Mar 2016, 3:35 pm
My nephew is like 7 or 8- my sister had no problem with him asking for M rated games for Christmas and his birthday. I didn't buy him any games because I knew he had a bit already. He ended up getting the M rated games and my sister is fine with any content he sees in games. She said "oh he plays those games at friends, so he might as well have the games here too". I didn't argue with her much about it because I know it doesn't do anything. He certainly isnt a mature kid by any means, but she's all about spoiling them rotten because they have the money to throw away.
This is a great example of how parents should step up and say no to their kids.
