Dynasty Warrior 5

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I've had this game for a while (as well as 4), and I've got at least half the characters either through hard mode or maxed out. The one thing that's driving me crazy though is trying to find the special items, orbs in particular. Getting Zhen Ji's weapon was easy enough (and right now I can fry any level with her as long as I'm not playing Chaos), but one thing I'm trying to do is get the shadow orb from Wu Zhiang plains, I know how to do it but for some reason following the instructions just doesn't cut it. Any of you guys know a lot about this game or how all this has to be done?