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23 Aug 2011, 10:10 pm

Ok, here's the deal. I'm wanting to get an NES top loader console, so I won't have to do much cleaning out of the insides of the console and blah blah blah, as well as be able to play unlicensed games as well as games from Europe and Japan without having to mod up the console(from what I understand anyway, you can do this....confirm or deny?)

Only problem is though is that it uses an R/F cord. Will HDTVs still have R/F ports in the future that I can plug up to? I know its best to play these games on SDTVs, but all I have is an HDTV for now, and thats all I'll be able to get ahold of for the foreseeable future, plus I kinda wanna be able to play all my consoles on one tv as it is anyway(even if they do look like s**t....I'm an audiophile and a videophile....but not so much of one that I will unnecessarily buy an extra tv I might not even have room for just to play a console I love....)

So will they still have R/F ports? And more importantly, do they still now?(looking to upgrade my tv....its small and has a few problems with it....probably will just trash it or let someone who wants it pick it up for free)

Please help me out here, WrongPlanet type people!! !

Thanks in advance!! !



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24 Aug 2011, 7:51 am

Older video game systems that don't support component video look terrible on HDTVs. This includes the Nintendo 64. However, older Nintendo games look great on the Wii or Gamecube with component video cables in 480p.



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24 Aug 2011, 8:43 am

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Older video game systems that don't support component video look terrible on HDTVs. This includes the Nintendo 64. However, older Nintendo games look great on the Wii or Gamecube with component video cables in 480p.


Ok....not what I asked. If you'll read, I acknowledge that it will look like s**t. I just don't have room for another tv right now, and I probably won't anytime in the near future.

I'm asking if HDTVs still have R/F ports for consoles such as the NES top loaders, and how long they will probably continue to support them if they haven't phased them out already.



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24 Aug 2011, 9:19 am

You might look at an RF tuner to receive the signal from the NES and then output it in some more convenient format that a modern telly is ok with? They're pretty cheap but I don't know what the right one would be.


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24 Aug 2011, 9:52 am

Aspie_Gamer88 wrote:
Ok, here's the deal. I'm wanting to get an NES top loader console, so I won't have to do much cleaning out of the insides of the console...


It's still a good idea to clean out the contacts every so often, and make sure all of your carts are clean too. If you don't have a kit, you can take a plastic credit-type-card and wrap a thin cloth around it. Dampen it with a bit of rubbing alcohol.

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...be able to play unlicensed games as well as games from Europe and Japan without having to mod up the console(from what I understand anyway, you can do this....confirm or deny?)


Any NES will play unlicensed games. The top loader doesn't have the lockout chip, so it should be able to play PAL games, but I've never tried it, so I'm not sure if there's 50 Hz issues or not. Obviously you'll need a pin converter to play Famicom carts, and from what I've heard there are a few games that use the expansion slot in some way to take advantage of extra sound channels (like Akumaju Dracula). The Game Genie won't fit in a top loader. It might fit if you take the case off...I tried that once, but the board is slightly too thick, and I didn't want to risk anything by forcing it in.

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Only problem is though is that it uses an R/F cord.


Most top loaders (I'm assuming you mean the official model 2 NES) have video interference issues, unless you find either the Japanese A/V NES, a refurb unit, or one of the extremely rare A/V US frankenstein units. Honestly, you're much better off modding it for A/V output (which there's a newer mod that will fix the "vertical lines" issue), but if you're not very technically inclined, I wouldn't suggest trying it yourself.


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24 Aug 2011, 12:09 pm

i think this is an american only question as i have no idea wtf you are talking about when you say RF port. our antenna port and red/white/yellow AV plugs haven't changed in all the time i can remember.



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24 Aug 2011, 12:12 pm

Knifey wrote:
i think this is an american only question as i have no idea wtf you are talking about when you say RF port. our antenna port and red/white/yellow AV plugs haven't changed in all the time i can remember.


Here is an RF cord, although I don't think this one is for a tv, but they look the same.

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=RF+port+ ... 29,r:3,s:0



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24 Aug 2011, 5:35 pm

RF cables and their inputs are, as best I can tell, still pretty common. I dont think I've yet run into a recent TV that doesnt still have that; the designers of these things, when they know what they're doing, believe in giving you the highest number of available ways in which to use their product, so you are more tempted to buy it.

I have a large, recent flatscreen model myself with all of the extras.... all the HDMI and multiple component outputs and a DVD player built in and who knows what else..... but I can still play my Atari 2600 or NES on it just fine, since it does indeed have that switch.

When buying a new TV, it's usually pretty easy to check for things like this, too.

And while it is true that older games tend not to look quite right on new screens, that does depend on the individual TV and it's settings.



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24 Aug 2011, 9:14 pm

[quote="Venger"]Older video game systems that don't support component video look terrible on HDTVs. This includes the Nintendo 64.[quote]

Learned that the hard way. :roll:


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25 Aug 2011, 4:44 am

Aspie_Gamer88 wrote:
So will they still have R/F ports? And more importantly, do they still now?(looking to upgrade my tv....its small and has a few problems with it....probably will just trash it or let someone who wants it pick it up for free)


Who says you need to get a new TV? You can pick up a second-hand old TV for as little as £15 and it'll have the RF port you require.

I've been using the same 14" TV/VCR combi for the last 8 years. It's perfect for all the consoles I have; I haven't branched out to the 7th generation yet (except for DS) so the modern TVs are a non-issue for me.



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25 Aug 2011, 7:24 am

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Aspie_Gamer88 wrote:
So will they still have R/F ports? And more importantly, do they still now?(looking to upgrade my tv....its small and has a few problems with it....probably will just trash it or let someone who wants it pick it up for free)


Who says you need to get a new TV? You can pick up a second-hand old TV for as little as £15 and it'll have the RF port you require.

I've been using the same 14" TV/VCR combi for the last 8 years. It's perfect for all the consoles I have; I haven't branched out to the 7th generation yet (except for DS) so the modern TVs are a non-issue for me.


See thats a problem for me, cuz I DO play the HD twins quite a bit, and occasionally if I'm feeling too lazy to sit in a computer chair I'll move my PC's tower over to my tv and play there with a wireless keyboard and mouse.



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25 Aug 2011, 9:07 am

Those patents and licenses are gone and all.
Get one of the many chinese made top loaders that already have tohse options.
Like this
Or this.

Also, the Wii has a good chance it will look bad on your HDTV. If you HDTV has bad scaling options to fix it.


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28 Aug 2011, 8:15 pm

Infoseeker wrote:
Those patents and licenses are gone and all.
Get one of the many chinese made top loaders that already have tohse options.
Like this
Or this.

Also, the Wii has a good chance it will look bad on your HDTV. If you HDTV has bad scaling options to fix it.
From firsthand experience, many of the games on the Wii's Virtual Console absolutely will not work on an 55-inch 1080p HDTV unless you use the old 480i SD resolution.



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28 Aug 2011, 9:06 pm

SyphonFilter wrote:
Infoseeker wrote:
Those patents and licenses are gone and all.
Get one of the many chinese made top loaders that already have tohse options.
Like this
Or this.

Also, the Wii has a good chance it will look bad on your HDTV. If you HDTV has bad scaling options to fix it.
From firsthand experience, many of the games on the Wii's Virtual Console absolutely will not work on an 55-inch 1080p HDTV unless you use the old 480i SD resolution.


Wii Virtual Console games look great on my CRT-HDTV(with video settings adjusted correctly). But then again they were designed with CRT televisions in mind back in the day.