Disgaea!
This is rare game but I would love to hear if anyone else plays it.
Might not be healthy to start if your obsessive about leveling up to the most powerful level.
Try level 999999. Plus you have to keep putting your none main characters back to level one to make them as powerful they can be, and get all the different colors. Its hard to explain, you have to play it for a while. You can have a ton of characters as well.
The voice acting is good, the story is a mix of good qualities but not perfect. It's mostly 2D, but for the newest game (4: A Promise Unforgotten) they made it look a lot nicer and added a ton of stuff.
The characters are extremely lovable. Which may seem weird cause they are demons, but the meanest character, Larharl, from the first game, is also the most loved because of his transformation at the end of the game. You may find yourself liking the demons the most, the humans a little, and the angels the least.
And thats why Disgaea is awesomesause.
Almost forgot the cool music!
This game series is indeed awesome. I'm obsessive about tactics based games like these. So I get stuck spending hours churning out the levels on my main team. And I still haven't managed to get to the content that requires insane levels. I wish I knew more people around where I live who liked this game ( actually, I wish anybody around where I live liked video games at all. ) In which case I'd be more inclined to grind out the levels so I could show off/compare progress/nerd out over it.
Plus I like the whole "demons are the good guys" dynamic. But I'm a sucker for the "dark hero" angle. Even when that hero isn't a hero at all.
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I really want to grab this game, but never got around to it.
Actually, I always end up having to research every time I think about buying it... PSP or DS version?
The DS seems to have all the PSP version does, but no voice acting and worse graphics and some extra bosses. But doesn't the PSP version have some DLC you can buy for it?
Can anyone tell me which is the better choice?
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You can only level to 9999, not 999,999,999.
You can, however do billions upon billions of damage once you've got to that threshold.
I haven't beat my Disgaea 3 yet, but I am at level 30+ probably with the mains, and I don't plan on playing the game into the 100s either.
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Actually, I always end up having to research every time I think about buying it... PSP or DS version?
The DS seems to have all the PSP version does, but no voice acting and worse graphics and some extra bosses. But doesn't the PSP version have some DLC you can buy for it?
Can anyone tell me which is the better choice?
No offense to any PSP lovers, but the system sucks.
The other reason I care to mention getting the DS version over the PSP is that the discs for PSP seemed to have been the worst designed game card/disc in the 21 century.
The break hella easy. You can even break it just trying to get the thing in right! Half of the PSP games I have I inherited and therefor don't want. Not only would they not have been worth anything anyway, but they were broke so they wouldn't take them!
However, if you care about Enta mode (you beat the story first to reach this), this is the only version that has it.
If you care about graphics, the makers did not focus on this until the fourth game, so you may want to skip to that one or the remade third one if you can't stand old looking graphics.
I'm a collector of Disgaea (because its possible to collect all desirable Disgaea items) so I plan on getting the the other two versions I don't have.
Yea I got the numbers wrong, but I think you can level up higher then 9999 based on the levels I've seen on demons you talk to in the other games. But I'm bad with numbers, so I might be wrong.
Oh and I like the demons being the good guys too. That they just do their jobs, "planting fear in the hearts of humans." As Jennifer puts it in the show (she doesn't say it like this exactly) "Demons try to get by just like we do father!" They have homes and families, they just live with different values and concerns (or lack thereof) than humans or angels.
I think that this how demons and angels may actually be.
Most of us Catholics seem to forget that you can't have angels without demons. Although in Disgaea they never mention the devil or God for obvious reasons.
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I only played the first one (PS2).
I got bored with the leveling, if memory serves none of my main characters were much above level 200, but I was still able to beat all the optional bosses.
As it turns out, the map for the boss fight with Overlord Prierre of the alternate netherworld has some islands 1x1 square wide. I'm sure they were intended to be cosmetic, but because her only attack has a very limited range, you can actually strand her there and chip away at her gradually with vastly under-leveled characters (only the last combo hit even did damage when I did it, and that was with 200% boosts!).
You recruit her (at level 2000) afterwards, and by transferring all your residents to her equipment and using other characters only for support spells, you can actually use her to kill all the other optional bosses.
With enough marksmen on an Awesome Hand, she even has a 50% chance to steal and equip Baal's Super Robo Suit!
(I can't help being proud of the exploits I think up sometimes )
My main problem with it was the music, which was not just lackluster but in quite a few places almost painful to listen to (every visit to Laharl's castle hurt my ears). And the dark assembly was a really bad mechanic.
Also, the whole "monster skills go back to zero when transmigrated because they get unlearned" thing was really stupid, as was the "monsters can't use weapons" one. Why have monster weapons all increase attack when some are meant to be spellcasters?
Although I missed the geo symbol stuff that come with a grid setup and the item level ups, overall I think I liked Makai Kingdom better.
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Yea sometimes if I had the music too loud on my DS it hurt my ears too. But I think thats the recording system they used (which is in some cases worse then YouTube quality).
I like the musicboxness of it though. Mostly I love the Laharl's theme (the opening tune).
But yea it gets awefully repetitive. I went in the item world in the second game all the time and the music would be almost unbearable.
For some reason when I played the first game I either was never able to recarnate or never figured it out. Thats why I started over, only Laharl was high enough level (90).
But I keep letting people borrow it (I'm trying to beat the fourth game now but I'm stuck) and they override my file so I have to keep starting over.
As for that other thing I saw that on a Youtube video but I never had that option in my game.
I thought about the monster weapons too.
I like using Succubus ("can't believe they got away with that image for two games" - my dad) and the Flower Monster (first appeared in second game) to heal my peeps when main healers die. I don't know what you meant by some using magic, but I think its useful.
But anyway, I think its because every monster has its own unique attack while humanoid attacks depend on what weapon they have.
It would be silly to see the monsters holding a sword don't you think? XP
I wish they had kept some of the monsters from the first game, and the angel beast they had in the second.
But who do they bring back in the fourth game? The stupid gargoyle. Honestly, high defense characters! I can never seem to level them up!