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02 Oct 2012, 7:58 am

So it's been over week or two since it came out, what do you guys think about it?
I think it's so much fun! I love the improvement they did on side quests and the voice acting~



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02 Oct 2012, 7:06 pm

Definite improvement to the quests in general, like half the side quests in the first were just "go here, kill this specific named, bring back item you looted, quest done." And they definitely steered away from that and have a little more depth and story to the side quests for sure.

And overall it's a great sequal, great improvement on the first, even better dialogue, more content etc etc etc but in the end I'm a little disapointed I dropped $60 for it. In early 20s, seeming 'bout halfway through the game and this first time playing through feels like the second time I played through the first one. It's just kinda still all the same. It's keeping me hooked but without that same wow factor as when the first one came out.

In retrospective I wish I woulda waited for it to come down to 30-40 bucks cause it feels more like i'm playing an expansion than a whole new game.


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02 Oct 2012, 10:28 pm

I played the first a lot, as you can probably tell from my avatar I liked it. But the second one is even better. I don't get the 'expansion' feel like the above poster gets, though I see that on a lot of sequels. My main character is level 29ish after 44 hours of gameplay, I don't always pay attention to the quests(Which are significantly better written this time, the overall humor of the game is more consistent than the first one) and just have fun killing things and getting loot, but I feel like this game has a ton of content since I haven't even finished the main story yet.

Some of the little details I really like, such as interesting new combat encounters like the Goliaths(Also the m***et Goliaths make the funniest noises) that change the way I approach a fight.


My one complaint, is any gun made by Tediore, I will vendor right off. I just don't like the special ability of that manufacturer since I never pay attention to when I reload, or how it does it automatically when I empty a clip and thus never actually make any use of the manufacturer special. It also wastes ammo if you reload early.



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03 Oct 2012, 8:29 am

I just finished my first playthrough, it is good to see a new game that has such a long lengthed campaign, I had a lot of fun with the exception of a few frustrating bits. I hate Threshars, playing as Maya it made it hard in getting surrounded by them, and I could not lift them for health, and I had to get my brother to team with me for the statue one, he was Axton and seemed to have a better time distracting fire from the bots.

The final fight was not as unfairly tough as I was expecting. And my favourite mission was the Ninja Turtles one, I only wish there were more missions with a similar parody, oh wait, maybe anything with Tiny Tina.


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03 Oct 2012, 4:01 pm

I've played both this and the first one consecutively in the past month. Can't say why I waited so long to try Borderlands 1. Shooter burnout I suppose. I used to play Counter-Strike for hours upon hours when I was younger. Lost interest in shooters somewhere along the way. But this series, this I like. Loot games in general appeal to me.

Borderlands 2 has some improvements and also some changes that I think detract. More variety in weapons and enemies is good. More variety in locations also good. The structure of the missions is more extensive, but there are problems that arise because of that. I do not like quests that are constantly adding new criteria along the way. It's never just "go get this thing", it's always go get the thing then do this other thing and oh wait there is more and travel over here and do this etc. Hate that. Some parts of the game are long linear sections I don't care for. Tiny Tina's area needs a Catch-a-Ride station, that is an awfully large area to be running on foot everywhere.

The difficulty is inconsistent. Moreso than Borderlands 1 was. Some of those boss fights don't feel balanced correctly for solo play. I had to beat the Thresher by luring it into an area where I could hit it but it couldn't hit me. Thresher can't burrow much past the threshold of the door to its area. Lure it out there, stand behind boxes. Shoot. Some of that might have to do with my choice of character class though. I was playing Zer0 on the melee skill tree for levels 1-19. Realized that the scenarios in which I can use my melee damage were too specific to be useful and the corresponding lack of firearm damage made some encounters harder than they needed to be. Thankfully skill points reset is freely available and inexpensive. I redistributed my points into crit and general gun damage buffs and have been having a much easier time with it now. The marker ability in the cunning tree is especially useful. All i have to do is hit it once with melee and it takes 20% extra damage from everything i fire at it for several seconds.

eelektrik wrote:
My one complaint, is any gun made by Tediore, I will vendor right off. I just don't like the special ability of that manufacturer since I never pay attention to when I reload, or how it does it automatically when I empty a clip and thus never actually make any use of the manufacturer special. It also wastes ammo if you reload early.


I have a Tediore caustic shotgun that I like. The reload toss is useful when you're within shotgun range. I wouldn't want it for any other type of gun though, agreed.

Fun game!



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03 Oct 2012, 5:11 pm

The assassin's bloodshed tree should be avoided until you are level 31 or higher. If you can't go all the way to the bottom of that skill tree yet, don't.

However, once you do. Melee with the assassin goes from meh to holycrapthisistotallyamazing. I mainly spent the earlier levels sniping.



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03 Oct 2012, 8:35 pm

Yeah that makes sense. It's the first half of the tree that's not so good, especially if you're putting points into it right from the start. I think I'll keep going down the center 'Cunning' tree for a while. I want to see if that kunai thing is any fun.



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03 Oct 2012, 11:54 pm

I haven't tried the kunai yet, I keep bouncing between sniping build and melee build. I found a ridiculous e-tech sniper rifle, but meleeing is still really fun too.

I also found an e-tech rocket launcher, which usually works fine, but for some reason I have come across one sidequest boss that normal rockets work on, but it seems to repel the projectiles from the e-tech one(In this case, the giant purple glowing ball of death it shoots out) and I am not sure the reasoning.



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04 Oct 2012, 1:29 am

My main character is maya now - phaselocking is SO much fun! It's really effective when you're like me, and always play with a friend who likes sniping floating enemies too :)


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04 Oct 2012, 1:40 am

iggy64 wrote:
My main character is maya now - phaselocking is SO much fun! It's really effective when you're like me, and always play with a friend who likes sniping floating enemies too :)


I've been playing Maya as well! I do love using the phaselock a lot, especially when I'm using a sniper so I need them to sit still >_<

Her skills/talents are really interesting for co-op too. I'm only lvl 18 so I still have ton of stuff to unlock and try out!

I tried playing as Zer0, but I got tired of using snipers only, I pretty much played only with snipers in Borderlands 1 ^_^;



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04 Oct 2012, 10:37 am

BrokenEnvoke wrote:
iggy64 wrote:
My main character is maya now - phaselocking is SO much fun! It's really effective when you're like me, and always play with a friend who likes sniping floating enemies too :)


I've been playing Maya as well! I do love using the phaselock a lot, especially when I'm using a sniper so I need them to sit still >_<

Her skills/talents are really interesting for co-op too. I'm only lvl 18 so I still have ton of stuff to unlock and try out!

I tried playing as Zer0, but I got tired of using snipers only, I pretty much played only with snipers in Borderlands 1 ^_^;


Yeah, her harmony tree is very cool for a medic style multiplayer :) I just unlocked RES, phaselock a friend to instantly revive. Really useful when someone dies somewhere awkward to save them from. I can't wait to get Helios, fire damage everywhere!


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04 Oct 2012, 12:23 pm

iggy64 wrote:
BrokenEnvoke wrote:
iggy64 wrote:
My main character is maya now - phaselocking is SO much fun! It's really effective when you're like me, and always play with a friend who likes sniping floating enemies too :)


I've been playing Maya as well! I do love using the phaselock a lot, especially when I'm using a sniper so I need them to sit still >_<

Her skills/talents are really interesting for co-op too. I'm only lvl 18 so I still have ton of stuff to unlock and try out!

I tried playing as Zer0, but I got tired of using snipers only, I pretty much played only with snipers in Borderlands 1 ^_^;


Yeah, her harmony tree is very cool for a medic style multiplayer :) I just unlocked RES, phaselock a friend to instantly revive. Really useful when someone dies somewhere awkward to save them from. I can't wait to get Helios, fire damage everywhere!


Oh I looked at the RES ability... looks overpowered! You could just sit back and res your butt buddy while sniping~ It has a pretty long range too!



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05 Oct 2012, 3:55 am

sag616 on 360 if anyone wants to co-op.


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05 Oct 2012, 11:44 am

Oh if anyone wants to start from the beginning add me on Steam ^__^
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09 Oct 2012, 3:09 am

Finished the first play through over the weekend, good stuff.

The new class is being released early as well. Originally slated for Oct. 16th, it is coming out sometime today, they said by the end of the day, on all platforms.

Check out the skill trees
http://www.borderlands2.com/us/skilltre ... ancer.html



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09 Oct 2012, 3:19 am

eelektrik wrote:
Finished the first play through over the weekend, good stuff.

The new class is being released early as well. Originally slated for Oct. 16th, it is coming out sometime today, they said by the end of the day, on all platforms.

Check out the skill trees
http://www.borderlands2.com/us/skilltre ... ancer.html


Oh man those Skills look pretty interesting~
Able to get over 200% Gun damage? Oh boy~

Shame it comes out today though since I'm still on my first playthrough.