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13 May 2013, 3:50 pm

First as we all can tell i have asperger and i just want to want to express. I'm not trying to cause a rant or so, just want to express my opinion and I don't want to start a fight or get yelled at. If this is the wrong place to put this, i'll delete it. I feel like lately these days the content in games are just getting more darker. I know they are good games but still it feels like a lot of game involve going so dark and far or into anti hero. It makes it hard to enjoy the games today. It also makes it hard to be passionate about games. I enjoy video games but there been so many dark, disturbing, or very graphic games. I'm glad there has been games like kingdom hearts and the tales series. It just it makes it seem like there can't be any positive to games. It has to be dark and sadistic to be well. I know there that saying thats what sells but still sigh. I still enjoy games that weren't so dark and glad i kept my games from the past. Just feels like we see the same old thing. Also i know there are games like mario as well, i'm just saying if i take a percent look it just feels like it.



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13 May 2013, 4:25 pm

Wolfer wrote:
First as we all can tell i have asperger and i just want to want to express. I'm not trying to cause a rant or so, just want to express my opinion and I don't want to start a fight or get yelled at. If this is the wrong place to put this, i'll delete it.
Don't be silly, your post is fine and this is the perfect place to put it! :)

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I feel like lately these days the content in games are just getting more darker. I know they are good games but still it feels like a lot of game involve going so dark and far or into anti hero. It makes it hard to enjoy the games today. It also makes it hard to be passionate about games. I enjoy video games but there been so many dark, disturbing, or very graphic games. I'm glad there has been games like kingdom hearts and the tales series. It just it makes it seem like there can't be any positive to games. It has to be dark and sadistic to be well. I know there that saying thats what sells but still sigh. I still enjoy games that weren't so dark and glad i kept my games from the past. Just feels like we see the same old thing. Also i know there are games like mario as well, i'm just saying if i take a percent look it just feels like it.
Hmm...were games back then really that much less dark then nowadays? And how far back are you referring to? 10 years? 20 years?

Just look through the Steam (if you have it) games library, there's plenty of games that aren't "dark". I can't say that there have been more dark games compared to 10 - 20 years back. Dark games with plenty of gore and such were already popular back then just like now. Doom is probably the best example.



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13 May 2013, 4:29 pm

true and i mean console games. I am familiar with doom. I think what I mean is I know there are goring games but I feel there are just more and less of other kind of console games. I mean if i was to look at a wall of games, i pretty much see game example like that. I mean i knew there were dark games in the past, i just feel like they are making more of that and less of anything else, and stuff that is light is being into dark stuff. thats what i mean. I think a better way of what i'm saying is, it feels hard to have games that are positive and i feel like it has to dark and gory like doom or so to be released.



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13 May 2013, 4:37 pm

Video games have always been dark, if anything newer games are getting deeper meanings instead of merely spreading gore all over the place. Take Rise of the Triad as an example, its old and it has no deeper meaning than to be violent.

Might I recommend New Super Mario Bros. Wii if you haven't played it yet and own a Wii. Its awesome and not dark or violent.



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13 May 2013, 4:41 pm

already played it and all. I know. If thats the case, then i guess i must had a good choice of judgement when choosing my games when i was younger. I played a lot of interesting games like dark cloud, legend of dragoon, dynasty warriors, skies of arcadia, shenmue, mario, sonic, legend of legaia, suikoden, star ocean etc...

also maybe thats what is, games are getting so many darker meaning these days



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13 May 2013, 4:42 pm

Yes. I find a lot of newer games are getting too dark, too gritty and too downright depressing. Of course, I grew up with Nintendo and Sega, so most games I played were usually cute and comical. Just the other week, thanks to my morbid sense of curiosity, I played some indie game called One Chance. Now there's a depressing game. Well more of a a mini-game since it only takes a few minutes to complete it (there are different endings, but they're all real downers). If you are really happy I would advise not playing it. Or if you are depressed I would also advise it because I wouldn't want you to become suicidal as well. :lol:. It makes me wonder if whoever created the game was really depressed or just wanted to make other people feel worse or something. I prefer games where I can escape from my occasionally harsh reality instead of being in an even worse one.



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13 May 2013, 4:52 pm

New games are awesome, end of story. Dark is awesome. Gore is awesome. Death is awesome. The more, the better.



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13 May 2013, 5:14 pm

when it comes to new games they are more like playable movies or cartoons and it cant be easy making a game that is as good as kingdom hearts minus the dark themes. There are plenty of games out there that arent dark but they arent as popular and well develeped as the more adult themed games fact is violence and sex sells.



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13 May 2013, 6:04 pm

I've played quite a few dark video games in my life. These include:
The Darkness
The Darkness II
Quake
Quake II
Blood
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Doom 3
Alone in the Dark
F.E.A.R.
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13 May 2013, 6:56 pm

I don't mind dark games. Heck, I'm quite fond of dark at times. My issue with modern games up until recently has been that they simply lack substance. I think things are starting to turn around in that regard though. While I don't think violence in games is that big a deal, I will concede that too many games are violent for the sake of being violent, and not because violence enhances the experience in any way. Corpse Party(and Book of Shadows) is an example of a game that uses violence effectively, to increase the fear factor, because no one wants to end up as one of the countless bodies lining the halls of Heavenly Host.

For every game like that though, there are way too many games where a player with an arsenal of firearms ploughs through an army of mindless zombies. I played a bit of Dead Nation, but I had to stop, because I felt like I was losing braincells rapidly, and would eventually end up as mindless as the enemies I was mowing down, if I kept playing that game. I guess I should add games like that to my list of things to ban if I ever rise to power. :roll:



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13 May 2013, 7:20 pm

I'm a bit sensitive to "dark" games as well and I don't know if it has something to do with PTSD or if I'm just sensitive.

I want to play Crysis sooooo bad but I'm afraid it will make me depressed.



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13 May 2013, 8:34 pm

I get what you mean. It seems as if the developers are putting out more of what they know sells in high volumes. Little else matters.


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13 May 2013, 9:00 pm

kouzoku wrote:
I want to play Crysis sooooo bad but I'm afraid it will make me depressed.


Well I actually like dark video games so I am probably not a good judge for this sort of thing but Crysis didn't really seem that dark to me. Not compared to Quake, Blood, Doom, Silent Hill, The Suffering, F.E.A.R and so on. Crysis had some moments in the beginning that was dark but got more ridiculously stupid once the aliens showed up IMO.

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Alone in the Dark


Seriously.......

How can anything so old be scary or dark? Unless you are referring to the 2008 game which I have not played.



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13 May 2013, 9:36 pm

dcj123 wrote:
Crysis had some moments in the beginning that was dark but got more ridiculously stupid once the aliens showed up IMO

I've had this feeling ever since I bought it on a Steam sale and beat it. The alien fortress inside of the mountain was cool, mysterious and unknown stuff like that always gets me excited and scared, but the second the aliens just became normal, ol' baddies, and ones that weren't fun to fight at all, either, they made the game suck.

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I want to play Crysis sooooo bad but I'm afraid it will make me depressed.

In all seriousness, Crysis gets way too sci-fi silly, way too fast for it to be a dark game, and in both games, but mostly in the second one, you end up saving the day with very little gravity given to the destruction caused by the events that unfolded, just like every other action game that tries to be "epic" but fails (tangent: Call of Duty 4 is one game that did it incredibly well with the nuke scene).


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13 May 2013, 9:53 pm

Tross wrote:
I don't mind dark games. Heck, I'm quite fond of dark at times. My issue with modern games up until recently has been that they simply lack substance. I think things are starting to turn around in that regard though. While I don't think violence in games is that big a deal, I will concede that too many games are violent for the sake of being violent, and not because violence enhances the experience in any way. Corpse Party(and Book of Shadows) is an example of a game that uses violence effectively, to increase the fear factor, because no one wants to end up as one of the countless bodies lining the halls of Heavenly Host.

For every game like that though, there are way too many games where a player with an arsenal of firearms ploughs through an army of mindless zombies. I played a bit of Dead Nation, but I had to stop, because I felt like I was losing braincells rapidly, and would eventually end up as mindless as the enemies I was mowing down, if I kept playing that game. I guess I should add games like that to my list of things to ban if I ever rise to power. :roll:


yeah thats what i mean. I mean before I see dark games i say, "pass, not interested." And so on because it just wasn't the kind of game I played. I like playing positive kind of games in a way. I'm just saying I'm not into those games and if you are into some dark games like GTA, call of duty, fable, skyrim and so thats fine. It just seem like now thats all we ever see, it has to be super violent. I mean I'm not against it because i know people like those things but it just seem like that is what most of the games are these days. It be nice to see some balance or bit more positive to it, not so cruel in a way. Feels like it has to be dark to be released, can't have anything positive. So I'm just saying it seem so much. I mean I'm not against dark games for example i played skyrim and i will admit it was a fun game and i enjoy many of the scenaries. Of course I found a lot of stuff in there I didn't like and so so I traded it in but I can see why people enjoy the game.



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13 May 2013, 10:02 pm

TheBraveSirRobin wrote:
dcj123 wrote:
Crysis had some moments in the beginning that was dark but got more ridiculously stupid once the aliens showed up IMO

I've had this feeling ever since I bought it on a Steam sale and beat it. The alien fortress inside of the mountain was cool, mysterious and unknown stuff like that always gets me excited and scared, but the second the aliens just became normal, ol' baddies, and ones that weren't fun to fight at all, either, they made the game suck.

kouzoku wrote:
I want to play Crysis sooooo bad but I'm afraid it will make me depressed.

In all seriousness, Crysis gets way too sci-fi silly, way too fast for it to be a dark game, and in both games, but mostly in the second one, you end up saving the day with very little gravity given to the destruction caused by the events that unfolded, just like every other action game that tries to be "epic" but fails (tangent: Call of Duty 4 is one game that did it incredibly well with the nuke scene).


Okay, maybe I got the wrong impression of the game from the videos I watched. It seemed to be a lot of shooting and such... the grabbing by the neck thing kind of bothered me, especially since they are supposed to be Koreans I think...

Do you only fight humans in the beginning or something?

I played FPS 10 years ago and they were much less realistic.