My Nintendo Rewards causes gamers to revolt

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Today many gamers across the gamingsphere are protesting the new rewards service from Nintendo called My Nintendo.

You can find the anger and protests on the main gaming sites such as IGN, Gamespot, Eurogamer and NeoGaf.
You can also find it on such fansites as Nintendo Life, Nintendo World Report, Kotaku and others.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1203382

Those who are angry and protesting claim that Nintendo is mistreating and insulting them by offering "sh***y" and lackluster rewards to the users of the program.
They also claim Nintendo is being unfair with how they make you earn coins by playing Miitomo, buying digital games of all sorts, weekly usage of their program site, Miiverse, eShop, and others. They think this is too demanded on gamers.

Lastly their other major complaint is the 6 months life of coins (points). Your coins both Gold and Platinum expire after the 6 months after you earned them.

They are demanding Nintendo offer new better prizes that such as early release of major releases, full games exclusive developed rewards, high quality physical rewards, steeper discounts of 50%+ on the eShop and physical purchases.

They are demanding that Nintendo give into their demands or scrap the program entirely.

To date Nintendo is the only gaming company to offer legit rewards program that offer decent rewards, as the other gaming companies that shut down their programs last gen. Nintendo's program consist of in game achievements and purchases that are redeemable for digital goods. Nintendo said it will be integrated into future titles and the NX platform.

What are the prizes that have everyone riled up?

My Nintendo Picross: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (3DS)
- 1000 Platinum/Miitomo Points
WarioWare: Touched! (DS via 3DS)
- 1000 Platinum/Miitomo Points
Donkey Kong Country Returns (Wii via Wii U)
- 230 Gold Points
Miitomo: Mario Suit - 250 Platinum/Miitomo Points (available until May 1st at 4AM)
Miitomo: 1 game ticket - 85 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 5/5 times, available until April 1st at 4AM)
Miitomo: 5 game tickets - 420 Platinum/Miitomo Points (glitch?!) (redeemable 2/2 times, available until April 1st at 4AM)
Miitomo: 10 game tickets - 250 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until April 1st at 4AM)
15% Discount on The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD (Wii U) - 750 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
15% Discount on Yoshi's Woolly World (Wii U) - 750 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
15% Discount on The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (3DS) - 600 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
15% Discount on Animal Crossing: New Leaf (3DS) - 450 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
15% Discount on Super Mario 3D Land (3DS) - 450 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
30% Discount on Splatoon (Wii U) - 140 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
30% Discount on Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Wii U) - 100 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
30% Discount on The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D (3DS) - 100 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
30% Discount on Ultimate NES Remix (3DS) - 70 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
30% Discount on Punch-Out!! (Wii via Wii U) - 50 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
Super Mario 64 (N64 via Wii U VC) - 90 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until August 1st at 4AM)
New Super Mario Bros. U DLC: New Super Luigi U (REQUIRES NSMBU, is not separate) (Wii U) - 170 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until August 1st at 4AM)
Pikmin 3 Mission Mode DLC Map Pack 2: Battle Enemies Stages 7-10 (Wii U) - 20 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until August 1st at 4AM)
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins (3DS VC) - 35 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until July 1st at 4AM)
Metroid Fusion (GBA via Wii U VC) - 60 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until August 1st at 4AM)
Super Punch-Out!! (SNES via Wii U VC) - 70 Gold Points (redeemable 1 time, available until August 1st at 4AM)
My Nintendo Theme 1: Mario (3DS Theme) - 200 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
My Nintendo Theme 2: Donkey Kong (3DS Theme) - 200 Platinum/Miitomo Points (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)
Flipnote 3D (3DS) - Free (redeemable 1 time, available until May 1st at 4AM)


You can literally earn a few hundred Platinum/Miitomo coins each month by currently using Miitomo daily and accessing the site and other services weekly.


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Many gamers think they entitled to free stuff no matter what.

If Nintendo had a profitable online service- they would likely charge for online and have a "free games" program similar to Microsoft and Sony. They don't, so thats honestly a huge reason a rewards program exists IMO at least.

Also- Sony does do a rewards program. I havent looked into it much. http://www.sonyrewards.com/en/home/welcome is the home page for it. It's not just for PlayStation stuff, its for other things too though.

People whining is literally the same old crap gamers do. They think they should be entitled to the best free stuff out there. I think they should be lucky there is a program at all! Nintendo isnt perfect but at least they do a program to reward their loyal customers. The coins expiring after 6 months is just about the only bad thing about the new program I see.

Sony's rewards program is tied to their credit card.
You only get points for using it.

It says you can link the rewards to PSN though.

You can, they have PS Credit Card too.
You get extra points for using Sony services and products.

People are idiots. Why look a gift horse in the mouth?

Club Nintendo was pretty lame too, until they finally added eShop games as rewards. The only part I don't like is that it looks like I won't be getting very many gold coins. But it looks like platinum coins are going to be super easy to get.

Club Nintendo was the same way. I had around 600 coins that were expiring, and it was way before they added eShop games, so I ended up getting a messenger bag. I've used it a couple times, I guess.

I made out huge with Club Nintendo.

I got quite a few good physical rewards and many digital games too.
i liked Club Nintendo NA.

I already racked up 1,000 Platinum/Miitomo coins on My Nintendo and used it to get WarioWare Touch (DS).

I am not fond of their system to be honest. I don't like how coins will expire six months after earning them and what if I don't earn enough and the fact you are forced to spend more money just to earn coins to rewards. I have 355 to go before I have enough to get Zelda Picross. I have six months to do it before they expire and I think that will be plenty of time for me to earn enough. I just never liked points expiring in any rewards program because I don't earn enough to spend enough to get points to even use them in time before they expire so I never bothered with those. WellsFargo rewards was the first time ever I actually got to redeem for a gift card because in the past I never got to earn anything but at least the points in Disney Movie Rewards never expire. You just have to log in every now and then to keep them active. I have gotten a couple DVDs from them and the rest of the prizes in my points range I don't even want or not interested in. But I never buy DVDs so I don't really earn points.

Now back to the topic, I hate points you earn having expiration dates. And one thing I can't figure out is how do I ask questions for other Miis to answer? I am not understanding all of this. Now to try and connect my Twitter account for points. I gotta get that Zelda Picross game before it's gone.

I agree with Earthbound, gamers are so freaking entitled these days. Bugs the hell out of me.

I say, they should just be glad Nintendo is doing something like this at all... instead of joining the DLC farming trend that other big companies have gotten into!

That being said, not a system I'll be using (lack of any ways to earn it, and I can just buy the games in question at any time anyway, so it doesnt matter) but I think it's a good thing that they're doing it at all instead of screwing over their customers in some shady way.

I literally could care less and am only posting here to say thats a dumbass reason to get upset.

Nintendo sucks anyway, they are going to go bankrupt if they can't appeal to the masses. The Wii and Wii U don't appeal to the masses, I love Nintendo classics as much as anyone else but at the end of the day they need profit. It is my hope that the new Zelda will be released on the Nintendo NX and that it won't suck. I'll buy the NX if Zelda comes out on it and I am not much of a console gamer.

Quite frankly I'm *really* glad they dont "appeal to the masses".

Because that'd mean one thing and one thing only: A carbon copy of Sony and Microsoft. I'm sorry, but we dont need a THIRD damn console with the same damn games on it. I'm so, so freaking tired of those. Consoles like those are the reason I'm a PC gamer. They're electronic disappointments. Nintendo wouldnt profit by just being ANOTHER one doing the exact same thing, but they WOULD kill off their fanbase.

I have a PS4 and the damn thing is basically a glorified doorstop. Or a thing that gets in the way when I'm walking past the bed. Hell, I dont remember the last time I used it. I have *one* game for it, since that's literally everything in it's library that I find appealing. It's not an FPS or jRPG; what a concept. There's one reason, and only one reason, why I havent gotten rid of the ridiculous thing: I'm lazy and dont want to drag it to the stupid Gamestop. I dont exactly need the money anyway and there's nothing I want from that store.

The XBone I'll never buy.

I respect Nintendo greatly these days for not giving into that like the others did. If they ever do go down, I'm done with consoles permanently.

May I suggest that this is a consumer product/service and as such, gamers do have a power at their disposal?

Nintendo prints money. They aren't going out of business just because you don't like them.

Miitomo is apparently tearing it up right now. I have friends who downloaded it who don't even own a 3DS.

I hate to break it to you, gaming has never appealed to the masses.
The world has 7.3 Billion people and the best selling console of all time sold 155M+
Or I'll put it to you this way there is ~1 Billion people who live in the main dedicated gaming markets and the best selling console did 155M+ the other ~900 Million people didn't bother with it.

The top 3 best selling home consoles of all time are PS2, PS1, Wii (slightly behind PS1) all three consoles have their libraries consisting of mostly shovelware.

Right now Xbox One is selling so bad that Microsoft hasn't give us a sales update since they the 10 Million sold market back in 2014.

The only console that is selling well is PS4.

Also off topic Nintendo has made more money each year since 2000, than the whole of Sony including all 4 years of Wii U.
Sony is literally running out of cash and is forced to sell real estate to pay the bills.
Sony has laid off almost 100,000 employees over the past few years (1/3rd of their total workforce) and sold off 2 divisions.
Sony currently has 25 divisions and only two are profitable. since the other 23 run so far in the red, they still bleed money.
CEO Kaz is unable to turn the company around after 3 years on the Job (he was promoted from Playstation division to CEO).
Though the only good news is their losses narrowed to ~$300 Million USD last year, compared to Nintendo making almost $300 Million USD.
Sony has been literally bleeding money for 16 years now

If any "gaming" company goes bankrupt anytime soon it's Sony and AMD due to both bleeding money.

Microsoft on the other hand is the most profitable gaming company that made a $15 Billion profit last year, despite still bleeding money on Xbox stuff (almost $16 Billion lost on Xbox stuff to date).

These stats are kinda entertaining.

That being said, it's very difficult to actually determine how many gamers there are out there.

I'm a gamer, have been for a very long time. But I dont own a PS2. Or a variety of other consoles. Same goes for alot of people.

And that's just that; PC gaming would be *really* hard to track. Considering the sheer number of games out there that are actually completely free and not attached to vendors... Hell, if I really wanted to, as a gamer I could go with JUST my rom archive. That's utterly impossible to track. But it means I have 7000+ games on this PC.

I rarely trust direct stats of that particular type. Especially with the mobile market going berserk and rampant piracy on many fronts and people that get into gaming via other means (maybe buying a console or two from some specific person that somehow has too many, whatever).

Now... SALES numbers on the other hand, in the context of how a company is doing... that's different.

Kinda what I expected too, really.

I dont know what this means.

Well the best number we have is PS2 gen sold ~300 Million pieces of dedicated hardware from all the players (includes Dreamcast and GBA).
That is a little less than 1/3rd of the total number of people that live in the main gaming markets.
Now if we subtract those who own more than 1 piece of hardware (like myself), then it would be even lower number.


Wii gen sold ~500 Million pieces of hardware, though all three hardware makers launched in more countries than before.
We add in countries such as UAE, HK, Eastern Europe, Singapore, SK, and few others then the total population this time around is ~1.5 Billion (population increased in quite a few established markets, especially in SA).
Dedicated gaming hardware still failed to cross the 1/3rd of the total population of the market due to multisystem ownership (I owned every model of DS, a PS3 and Wii that gen).

Very few people buy PCs for gaming.
Most people buy PCs, Smartphones, Smartwatches, and tablets for productivity and communication reasons and happen to download a small game on the side.

We also know that Steam has ~120 Million unique users (As in accounts) globally.
But the amount of people who regularly buy something and sign in to their accounts is between 10 - 20 million each year (most years closer to 10 million).


The point is the vast majority of humans don't own games and gaming related devices.