Trouble with running Shadow of the Collosus on an emulator.

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31 Mar 2016, 2:20 pm

I didn't know whether to post here or somewhere else, so I am posting here.

I am currently trying to run Shadow of the Colossus (PS2 Game) on my emulator (PCSX2, I believe it is called), but it is extremely laggy whenever I play it, and the audio skips almost excessively. Below is my basic computer specs...

Intel Core i7 4510 @ 2.6 GHZ, 6 GB RAM, Windows 10 64-Bit.

I haven't played around with the settings much besides from setting up my gamepad, and adjusting the setting level up to Aggressive Plus to fix a lagging issue in another game (Robotech: Battlecry, which actually worked). I want to know if anyone else had this problem with similar hardware and was able to fix it.

Thanks for reading, and thanks again if you respond.



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31 Mar 2016, 2:55 pm

Shadow of the Colossus don't run fast on PCSX2, even though if you manage to make it work it might be the best way to play it. You seem to have a good CPU, though a little underclocked. (I guess you are using a laptop.) What are you using as GPU? The GPU got it's importance too in emulating a PS2 or a GameCube.



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31 Mar 2016, 3:27 pm

My GPU (I believe) is an Intel HD Graphics, though I do not know what specific model it is, however. I think that is what you are asking.

It is a laptop.



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31 Mar 2016, 5:56 pm

There is no way Shadow of the Colossus is going to work on a laptop, hang it up. You can try to decreasing the EE Cyclerate and increasing the VU Cycle Stealing but don't expect a miracle. Those settings are under speedhacks but your graphics card it way too weak, lower graphics as much as possible.

Play it on your PS2 which you would be able to do if you were using PCSX2 legally, if not please cease using PCSX2. Better yet just buy it off ebay, its $10 to $20 off ebay unless your PS2 is broke. Than I understand cause thats why I use PCSX2.



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31 Mar 2016, 6:20 pm

dcj123 wrote:
There is no way Shadow of the Colossus is going to work on a laptop, hang it up. You can try to decreasing the EE Cyclerate and increasing the VU Cycle Stealing but don't expect a miracle. Those settings are under speedhacks but your graphics card it way too weak, lower graphics as much as possible.

Play it on your PS2 which you would be able to do if you were using PCSX2 legally, if not please cease using PCSX2. Better yet just buy it off ebay, its $10 to $20 off ebay unless your PS2 is broke. Than I understand cause thats why I use PCSX2.


Sorry if I sound stupid, but how Is using PCSX2 illegal if you don't have a PS2? The reason I got PCSX2 is because I haven't had a PS2 in almost 6 years, and I wanted to relive those games having not played them in six and a half years. All I had to do was go and type in PS2 BIOS and download it and then download a copy of my favorite 3 games from back in the day off of emuparadise (I believe it was called) and put them all in a folder on my desktop. How is that illegal? Wouldn't that be the point of getting an emulator? I do the same with old DOS games off of squakenet with dosbox. Is that illegal? Sorry If I have offended you, but I am very curious now.



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31 Mar 2016, 6:36 pm

Your second sentence answers your first question.

I quote from Bositman of PCSX2 forums

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Warez talk is prohibited and frowned upon, to prevent legal issues. You may not post links or refer to any kind of BIOS, ROM, ISO, or game that has been illegally obtained or downloaded. If any post like that is found, the thread containing it will be closed and further support will be revoked until proven otherwise.


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http://forums.pcsx2.net/Announcement-Global-Forum-Rules

You have to legally own both the bios and the games which you clearly do not own. You people give emulators a bad name, emulators are associated with crime thanks to you when thats not the case. I get it I pirated stuff too back in my day but I do everything legal now (As far as computers go) and you'll get a lot further with most people doing it that way.

The point to these projects are to play the original games in higher resolutions and to accurately reconstruct these older machines to modern ones. Consoles don't last forever, computers don't last forever, emulators can. I got my bios before my PS2 died and I still own a part of my PS2 though I have gutted it and made it into a computer.



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31 Mar 2016, 6:51 pm

dcj123 wrote:
Your second sentence answers your first question.

I quote from Bositman of PCSX2 forums

Bositman wrote:
Warez talk is prohibited and frowned upon, to prevent legal issues. You may not post links or refer to any kind of BIOS, ROM, ISO, or game that has been illegally obtained or downloaded. If any post like that is found, the thread containing it will be closed and further support will be revoked until proven otherwise.


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http://forums.pcsx2.net/Announcement-Global-Forum-Rules

You have to legally own both the bios and the games which you clearly do not own. You people give emulators a bad name, emulators are associated with crime thanks to you when thats not the case. I get it I pirated stuff too back in my day but I do everything legal now and you'll get a lot further with most people doing it that way.

The point to these projects are to play the original games in higher resolutions and to accurately reconstruct these older machines to modern ones. Consoles don't last forever, computers don't last forever, emulators can. I got my bios before my PS2 died and I still own a part of my PS2 though I have gutted it and made it into a computer.


I am sorry I have offended you. I am not going to argue in defense of stupid people, because I obviously am one. Though, your post reads as moderately hateful and judgmental, so I think I am going to figure it out on my own.

Again, I am sorry I offended you.



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31 Mar 2016, 7:05 pm

cthulhuhead wrote:
I am sorry I have offended you. I am not going to argue in defense of stupid people, because I obviously am one. Though, your post reads as moderately hateful and judgmental, so I think I am going to figure it out on my own.

Again, I am sorry I offended you.


Yeah sorry I am not good with people, hateful wasn't the the goal but do what I said in my first post, its the only thing I see helping.

Also sarcasm acknowledged, I don't think your a stupid person. I pirated stuff to back in the day but I never complained if it didn't work. I guess my attitude came from the fact that I don't think the game is running on that laptop so I call abandon ship. Its a good game and I have pirated other good games so for what its worth I hope you get the game working. I guess I let my skepticism to become hateful. Also worth mentioning another reason those sites look down on piracy is sometimes the rips themselves are bad and cause problems. Try another site and check and see if the file size is the same as other downloads.

I had bad luck with emuparadise back in 2006 or 2007 so yeah,



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31 Mar 2016, 7:25 pm

Ripping off a game maker by stealing their work is horrible. PS2 and a copy of the game isnt that expensive.

If you made something, would you like it stolen? Put yourself in their shoes.



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31 Mar 2016, 7:37 pm

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Ripping off a game maker by stealing their work is horrible. PS2 and a copy of the game isnt that expensive.

If you made something, would you like it stolen? Put yourself in their shoes.


Thats my attitude now but I might have been a bit harsh towards OP. I mean I can't hold something I did as well that much against him. I just hope he realizes the damage thats done with such action, frankly it wasn't my business if it was pirated so I stepped out of line, I am sorry.

But realize the damage against the author of these emulators as well, you ruined their image and label them criminals when you use their code to run a pirated game. I see where I was rude and I admit I was wrong but you can at least see where I am coming from.



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31 Mar 2016, 7:56 pm

Earthbound wrote:
Ripping off a game maker by stealing their work is horrible. PS2 and a copy of the game isnt that expensive.

If you made something, would you like it stolen? Put yourself in their shoes.


I think I am going to argue in defense of this now, just a little bit.

I understand that it is considered wrong, and yes, before you ask or say, I purchase all of my new games legitimately, though their are games out their, for instance, like MechWarrior 2: Ghost Bears Legacy, that were released a long time ago, that the creators can no longer profit off of, for said games like those that are over 20 years old or more that is almost always sold by a third party, so unless it is on GOG, I will go to websites that offer games that cannot be obtained any other way due to age, obsoletion, or incompatabiltiy with even less than modern pc's, and download them, because I am not willing to go on amazon and basically gamble hundreds of dollars for a game I will play for less than 30 hours that may not work. that does not mean I do that with every game. I have two accounts on steam (one for a friend of mine to use and my own) that I have probably spent upwards of $500 dollars on games with said accounts.

In short, I don't understand how not being able to support the developers of out of print games is harming said developers.

I could understand your argument if I asked for help getting a game like Bloodborne or Halo 5 to work on an emulator, because in that case, that would be clearly detriemental to a currently existant developer for whom their lives basically come from the consumers purchasing of their hard worked product.

I know it sounds hypocritical, but this is how I believe on this matter. Don't quote me (minor forum joke, I am assuming someone will). Sorry if I offended.

And no, I did not consider the dev's of the emulators image being stained. That is actually very thought provoking. Good point. Thanks for informing me of that standpoint. That actually is a very intelligent point to make.



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01 Apr 2016, 6:54 am

Many old games are sold digitally through Steam, Gog, PS4, Xbox One, Wii U (and so on). So many game makers DO still make profits off their work.



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01 Apr 2016, 8:10 am

That game doesn't even run that smoothly on a real PS2, so...

Earthbound wrote:
Many old games are sold digitally through Steam, Gog, PS4, Xbox One, Wii U (and so on). So many game makers DO still make profits off their work.


It depends. The "game makers" don't usually make any money, it all goes to whatever publisher currently owns the rights to the game. So if you buy Wolfenstein 3D from Steam, none of the money goes to Carmack, Romero, Hall, etc. because they don't work at id anymore.


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