AAArrhgggg These social games of today!!

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20 Feb 2013, 1:30 am

Dam it!!i was playing swtor, a flashpoint, which is a 4 people team where you have a mission to complete while you get some cool items.
But the game ROLLS the loot, i got kicked of the group because i select need on an item and the others seemed to not needed that much.
WTH! is that a reason to kick someone? if they needed the item why didnt they selected NEED thats why the buttom is there.
This is what the official page says:

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When the group picks up a unique item, by default, all members have the opportunity to roll for the item. When an item is put up for a roll, a window appears displaying the item. A green meter counts down how much time you have to roll for the item. Select NEED or GREED to roll for the item, and a random number is generated for every group member. The player with the highest number is awarded the item. If you want a good chance at securing the item, select NEED. Otherwise, choose GREED if you want to give the other members a better chance at obtaining the item.

WHY they selected GREED if they wanted it so much. In other sites it says you have to ask the othres first. then why didnt they asked for it. I cant understand it.

I have played this a lot of times before and NEVER got kicked for this reason. Too many times I've wanted an object that is very useful for me and the others have earned it and I have not gone madand kicked them, it's part of the game sometimes you win sometimes not.
And the only thing i can do is /ignore them, so i don't get matched with them again. :evil: :evil: :evil:



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20 Feb 2013, 2:57 pm

Did you roll need because it was an actual upgrade for you that you intended to use or did you just roll need because you didn't think anyone else wanted it and intended to sell or give to an alt?

Did anyone say in advance that they specifically were looking for said item?

These are the main reasons I can think of that others might have a reason to fuss about the loot.



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20 Feb 2013, 10:04 pm

mercifullyfree wrote:
Did you roll need because it was an actual upgrade for you that you intended to use or did you just roll need because you didn't think anyone else wanted it and intended to sell or give to an alt?

Did anyone say in advance that they specifically were looking for said item?

These are the main reasons I can think of that others might have a reason to fuss about the loot.

Exactly. If they say, i want that, then i understand. But they didn't. They all selected greed instead of need.
And the item was actually useful for my companion, so there was no reason for kick me.
I was so angry because it took me almost 4 hours to get the group.



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21 Feb 2013, 11:19 am

I also play Star Wars: I think the misunderstanding was that not you needed the item, but your companion. This is not supposed to be an official need as the amount of player is used. And if your Companion needs other stats then your charakter it is quiet obvious, that you didnt roll for yourself but for your companion.

The thing is, there are lots of guys that simply roll for every item, because they want to sell them, and pretend at every item that they would need it for their companion. For the other player this is a problem, because normally you have some repair costs, when visiting an instance, but also have some random items noone needed and that are randomly shared among the players. If a player rolls Need for every item pretending to have Companionneed, then the other players loose money.

So I also do need sometimes for my companion, but due to unwritten rules you are expected to ask before you roll. As example: "Do you mind if I wanted that item for my healer-companion?" Because this way you yourself tell the players, about your interest. If not the player had to study the lootroll for every item, and compare it to the equiplevel of the player and the companion of his character to know if the player really needs the item, or is just ninjalooting. Normally you also know the other Characters Companions and which charakters normally use which companion. So as example a Healsorcerer normally has the Tankcompanion equipped and an DD companion and so on.

I think it was only a misunderstanding in your group, because you didnt tell them to be interested in the item for your companion, so it seemed for them that you choose "Need" so you can sell the item. I play since gamestart, and never had been refused an non needed item for my companion, as long as I told so. :)



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21 Feb 2013, 11:33 am

It's the nature of the beast with many MMO communities. I was once bullied out of a weapon in WoW because the guy's friend wanted it. Usually a friendly "Can I need please?" works.


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21 Feb 2013, 5:06 pm

Social games? I'm not looking forward to 'social consoles' like the Wii-U where emphasis is placed on 'in room' content rather than 'across the world.'

Once again, single player is getting the short stick again.


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21 Feb 2013, 5:43 pm

Thatmew wrote:
Social games? I'm not looking forward to 'social consoles' like the Wii-U where emphasis is placed on 'in room' content rather than 'across the world.'

Once again, single player is getting the short stick again.


You obviously didn't read the post, because it had nothing to do with that. He was referring to player behavior on MMORPGs. Which any online community is full of dicks that will get in the way of your enjoyment if it is within their ability to do so. Related to what happened on SWTOR, I was playing WoW, we were doing a 5-man dungeon and 4 of us knew each other so we picked up a random person for our 5th. We were doing Dire Maul and the rare drop item that starts a quest chain for a Warrior/Paladin epic sword dropped. We actually had two Paladins and a Warrior in the group, and we all roll Need. Unfortunately so does the puggie Rogue who wins it, and then immediately attempts to sell it to us. There are always douchebags out there.

But regarding your post, single-player has never gotten the short stick, but 'in room' content that you complain about certainly has. I personally am sick of companies treating split-screen gameplay like something you catch in Vegas, get some ointment from your Doctor, and avoid telling your wife about it. Everyone wants everything multiplayer to be online, want to play with your friends? Well then you get to send them home and tell them to buy their own console and copy of the game and not actually hang out with them.

However I actually expected the thread to be about Facebook games, which I have seen referred to as 'Social games' and that could not be further from the truth as to what they actually are.



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22 Feb 2013, 4:29 am

eelektrik wrote:
Everyone wants everything multiplayer to be online, want to play with your friends? Well then you get to send them home and tell them to buy their own console and copy of the game and not actually hang out with them.


We usually carry our consoles with us, when visiting friends. The ones, that have PC´s at home also take their display with them. Sadly it was a problem for the friends that had no PC and played console on their television, because you cant carry a television as easily with you. But we managed ourselves some old used televisions some years ago, when everyone went crazy and had to buy himself a widescreen plasma or LCD. Because of that we could buy an 2 year "old" television (in normal size) from a good brand for only 30 EUR/$. So the remote receiver isnt working, so you cannot use the remote and have to use the control panel on the television itself, but for console gaming there is no misadvantage, because you dont switch channels anyway while gaming. :)

Its crazy what real good stuff people likely throw away, just because of some fashion hypes, telling them their "old" stuff, would have loosen its worth. :(