Should Women be Permitted to Appear Topless in Public?

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For me, the back-country is open fields, so I would be easily noticeable, especially since there are a couple of casinos in the middle of those fields, just across the state line in Oklahoma.

Tim

Then it's not "back country".

I am a woman, and while I don't think there's anything wrong with a naked body in the moral sense of the concept, people cover their genitalia for a reason. And women cover our breasts for a reason.

These are the most sensitive areas of our bodies and they have to be protected from all the risks from the world (cold, heat, rough surfaces, sun, dirt, accidents of any kind, etc, etc, etc...), so we put a piece of cloth covering them, not because we're ashamed, but because we have to keep them safe. It's not until later that religions put a moral tint to it. Women's breasts are more sensitive than men's, so there.

So basically, I don't have moral objections, but I wouldn't do it.

That one is also sexual!

Some information about topless beaching here in Australia.

http://www.topfreedom.com/austgen.html

It's a while since I've visited a beach, but when I did, it was not at all unusual to see a woman relaxing on the sand without a top. Does every female beachgoer do this? No. It's optional.

The only time I heard someone express any objection, it was the boyfriend of a woman who took off her top in a group situation. He said something like 'Why do you have to do that?' I guess he would have preferred to be the only male who got to see her like that...

Has it made us Australians less moral?

I don't know...

Regards to all...
Quasimodo

Then prove it, surely if you're saying this you have more proof than "People say so" or "It's obvious".

Personal observation of character. I've been in a lot of subcultures, got to know them before I got to see just how toxic and corrupted (not to mention scary) that a lot of the 'normals' are. On the other hand though, I'm really not too worried, I've got nothing to prove to ya. From what I've seen though alternative and subculture people get out of the mainstream because - they don't like it. Quite often they're better people, but have a lot of angst just in the sense that they can't stand society as it is or have to find their own nitch group to right things or find a sense of relief or a breath of fresh air. A lot of more mainstream sorts, especially the white trash and ghetto trash of all other flavors - urban or suburban, THAT's what I'm really talking about as well as lot of the general douchebags out there.

If you think about it, subculture kids kinda like Israeli's - hard on the outside, a lot of normals - disgusting, basic-minded, and corrupt as hell on the inside. Not saying all, just that in proportion; a woman who's at an industrial fetish ball is far safer than going to the clubs, a bar, or even walking down a suburban main street at night with her shirt off - anhy of the later would be VERY dangerous and could easilhy end up with her busted up in the hospital, possibly gone on rohypnol, and maybe two or three different kinds of sperm in her.

Gah. i think it's sexist for men to be allowed to wear no top, but women are treated like skanks if they don't.

Yeah yeah certain things aren't acceptable in western culture, that's obvious. But other cultures don't have the same sorts of hang ups we do, a lot are ok with nudity in certain situations and some have full blown nudity.

If it were done more often it would be more acceptable, case in point: Nude beaches.

I still don't think that ones deliberate reprisal or coming from any angle of social 'justice' though, just that the way our culture works we turn out a lot of real stupid sheisty and basic-minded m-----f---ers. To get that out of our culture would take generations.

No it doesn't have to do with stupidity, just culture.

Anyway I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, if we legalised it people would eventually become ok with it. Homosexuality isn't exactly acceptable right now but it's better than it used to be.

it's acceptable to me and a lot of people I know.

Well, we've definitely got our own opinions. I guess I was just saying that its too toxic right now to do that kind of thing. I guess your right in one sense - if it was societally in to crash down on people for being too basic it would work, we sadly still endorse and reward it way too much.

I should think that the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment should guarantee equal treatment of the public display of male and female nipples.

The idea of Equal Protection may have been a part of what inspired the Title IX of the Equal Education Amendments of 1972 (aka Equal Education Act)

Obviously, if there exists an educational program or activity that receives federal financial assistance and that permits men to bare their chests, then the ladies ought to have the same right.